2020 Election Thread (formerly: 2020 Presidential Candidates Thread) (Part 1)

There she goes just wanting to look good again. /s

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Fuck around and find out.

He’s not even a socialist. Middle of the road social democrat. He’s not even near Corbyn, much less Melenchon.

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Yup. That’s pretty damn offensive, all right.

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She may be addressing the issue of trust more than others do, but I suspect Sanders inspires trust in voters more than she does. I certainly find him more consistently sincere, and less often cagey in a typical-politician way, than I do her.

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The issue, and GODMOTHERFUCKINGDAMMITWHATTHEFUCKISWRONGWITHAAAAGGGGGGHHHH, is not crossover Republican voters, but the 40% or so- More than either party- who are declared independents. The giant fucking block of voters that the Democrats seem to have zero interest in.

These are people who largely support Medicare for all, a higher minimum wage, higher taxes on the rich, fighting climate change, reproductive rights, and everything else that Democrats could be doing if they would JUST STOP TRYING TO WIN OVER PEOPLE WHO OPPOSE EVERYTHING WE FUCKINGGODDAMNMOTHERAAAAAGGGGHHHHH!

This election cycle is gonna kill me. I swear.

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Personally I don’t trust him, although I do trust him more than Trump or Bloomberg. That’s not saying much.

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Honestly trusting a politician shows either alarmingly poor judgement or charming naivete. Cannot think of a third option. And before anyone goes there, I do not think most Trumpkins actually trust him, I think they just enjoy that he is as fucked as they are.

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Not presidential, but still important and kinda fun to watch!

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Interesting. If anything, I would probably vote for him in the general if he wins the nomination at least on the sectoral union contract idea. If he can get that done that would probably change union participation heavily.

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that article is better than i expected

In the “moderate” lane — where Biden, Buttigieg, Klobuchar, and Bloomberg are battling it out — the effort to address trust is largely affective. The moderate promises a return to normalcy , when everything didn’t feel so tense and volatile. The moderate promises not to be rigid or ideological, to compromise and be constructive, but above all to provide a steady, familiar, predictable hand on the tiller. There might not be any big revolution, but there will be slow, steady progress, not this vertiginous lurching about.

The problem with the moderate approach is that the system really is rigged. It is rigged against Democratic reformers through the electoral college, the overrepresentation of rural areas in the Senate, gerrymandering from 2010, unlimited money in politics, and the filibuster, among other things. And it is rigged in favor of the wealthy and powerful, with white-collar criminal enforcement declining, agencies like the IRS being defunded and defanged, and now Trump pardoning random criminals who get to him through Fox.

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Oh, I thought you were talking about Barry Sanders. Who was part of one of the most powerful unions in the US. If we could bring that kind of collective bargaining power to other industries, that would be great progress!

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I’d bet dollars to donuts that if someone presses Bloomie on his anti-Muslim bigotry, they get labeled as antisemitic in less than 20 minutes.

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Uncle Joe is so good at scaring kids off his lawn.

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This is ridiculously funny to me… but then, I’m from Detroit, so I know who Barry Sanders is.

Saw these on Twitter, on a different thread:

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It would be really awesome if Brooks responded by saying he was wearing the jersey for both Sanders!

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