2020 Election Thread (formerly: 2020 Presidential Candidates Thread) (Part 1)

I just wanna say, I feel like a kid on Christmas morning listening to 20 passionate people who actually give a shit about public policy. It’s so. fucking. refreshing.

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10-odd passionate people, plus weirdos like Yang and Williamson, plus the likes of Tim Ryan and John Delaney.

Some chance that’s not John Delaney.

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Those of us who are Senate hearings addicts have already seen this aspect of Harris, and there are few better at bringing prosecutorial skills into politics. I’ve been wondering how she would do in a debate format, and honestly still wonder, since tonight gave her another opportunity to fall back on that talent.

Biden, meanwhile, is well-known to have anger management issues, and he let Harris trap him into putting those on display. This happened on a few occasions in '88, and it helped tank him then.

Honestly, even though I personally don’t think a Biden presidency would be a disaster, and I think there are better ways to campaign in the primaries than just to go after the presumed frontrunner, I found this unexpectedly satisfying.

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Maybe, maybe not. He’s articulate, bright, and clean, and a nice looking guy. However, a Biden campaign certainly is. Which is why he’s been running since 1988 yet riding the coattails of someone who was in his 20s in 1988. It’s painful to watch.

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Always a good look to be splitting hairs on desegregation and racism and which forms of it you were specifically opposed to in the year of our lord two thousand and nineteen.

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“My time’s up.” – the most honest and truthful thing Joe Biden said last night.

As someone who’s worked with Williamson for awhile, I was so happy to see her go full-bore LOVE IS THE ANSWER crystal chimes tinkling in the debates. I feared she would try to sound like a politician, but no, she went full Williamson.

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As we watched this, my wife said that Williamson needed to go back to selling kombucha at her local farmer’s market. I think that summed it up pretty well.

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"Tracy Klugian, who lives in San Diego, said he was taken aback by the candidates showing off their language proficiency. “Every one of them was fluent in English,” he said. “For a President, that would be jarring.”

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I gotta say, I realized I hadn’t seen much live Buttigeig, so I finally understood the Mayor Pete effect. The man does exude concise, erudite confidence. Of course, it takes about 30 seconds each time to realize he has actually said nothing of substance, but I see where his polling numbers have come from. But then ladyGoose and I both reflexively said “woah!” and leaned back when he stared down Swalwell after Swalwell called him out repeatedly. It was suddenly icy clear that Buttigeig has killed people with his bare hands…

the Buttigieg dagger stare at Swalwell pic.twitter.com/MhwkWpxduQ

— J.D. Durkin (@jiveDurkey) June 28, 2019
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He will do well in the debates. He’s a good debater, even though he says nothing.

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At the risk of offending all the debate club kids out there, everything after the comma here is redundant :wink:

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His answer to the police staffing issue seemed to be both refreshingly contrite and full of useful information (clearly well prepared).

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I agree. He also gave pretty clear answers to other questions, such as on free tuition and medicare for all. I disagree with him on some issues, but he’s quick and thoughtful and would make an excellent Governor of Indiana (the job I think he really is running for) or a VP running mate for a Harris or a Warren.

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Whether or not you like Harris based on her policy stances, remember that misogynoir is real.

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The only time the bigots care what kind of black she is is when it’s useful to them

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