2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine (Part 2)

Even with the restrictions required during wartime, this is concerning:

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I just hope that them joining the EU will require a little more than being the second worst side in a war.

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Americans who support Putin will use whatever nonsense comes to mind. It’s not they have any legitimate justifications to support his invasion.

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You’d think that people inside the Ukrainian government and security services would understand the importance of not doing anything that plays into Russian hands.

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I don’t know if I trust Jacobin not to go tankie :thinking:

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/hopefully puts Murdoch on the death pool bingo card again.

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The article quotes a commentator who uses the phrase “Ukraine’s war on Donbas”. The European Court of Human Rights has ruled that Russia was in “effective control” of the separatist regions from 11th May 2014. In 2019 the ECHR ruled that Russia had been in effective control of Crimea from 27th February 2014.

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Corbyn has decided to lean into the Useful Idiocy that helped bring us Brexit, I see.

As for Jacobin, it’s not The Nation but its editors do need to educate themselves about which country is the fascist aggressor in this conflict.

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… while he is actually dismembering Ukraine?

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“Accuse the other side of that which you are guilty.”

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Haha

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https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1629881909030387712

https://twitter.com/francis_scarr/status/1630134454638329857

https://twitter.com/oryxspioenkop/status/1630147153992581120

I had a feeling that there would be trouble.

18m ago13.56 GMT

A planned concert by the subversive Slovenian industrial rock band Laibach in Ukraine has been cancelled after the group angered Ukrainians by remarks interpreted to suggest that Kyiv was a client state fighting a war for its western masters, AP reports.

The group was scheduled to play Bel Etage Music Hall on 31 March, and claimed they were to be the first foreign group to perform a full concert in Kyiv since the Russian invasion of Ukraine in February 2022.

They said the concert aimed to show support for the Ukrainian people during the war, but organisers said its remarks caused “controversy” and discord, forcing the cancellation.

In remarks to the Guardian published last week, the group lamented the conflict in Ukraine as “a cynical proxy war for the geostrategic interests of the superpowers and financial capital (of the military industry, etc)“.

The group’s statement was compared by many Ukrainians to Russian state propaganda that portrays the invasion as a conflict with Nato and reduces Ukraine to a puppet state of the west, according to Slovenia’s STA news agency.

In a Facebook post late on Sunday, the Bel Etage Music Hall said:

While the team showed support for Ukraine and Ukrainians and condemned the Russian regime, a large part of the audience came out categorically against Laibach’s visit.

It added:

In order to prevent the unnecessary division of Ukrainians into different camps and to eliminate the cause of discord, we have decided to cancel the Laibach concert at Bel Etage.

Laibach told STA they were “categorically asked to declare that all Russians are bad and that all Russian art is worthless, which of course they did not agree to do”.

In a statement on Facebook, the group said “to all those who doubt our views, let us therefore once again make it very clear that Russia is the main aggressor in this clash of destructive political and geostrategic interests”.

That new statement isn’t going to impress Ukrainians. “Main agressor” implies that there is more than one aggressor, and the statement also implies that Western support for Ukraine is based on geopolitical “interests” instead of moral principles.

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