You do realize that’s a favorite phrase of fascists? Next exit: Road to Hell.
“Y’know, the neo-nazis ain’t the real Nazis. Libturds is the real Nazis.”
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God dammit Louie, not you too.
Does anyone else get the gut feeling, maybe based on what they know of Louie, maybe the nature of what he’s done, that there’s a mental health issue here?
I’m not minimising his actions; it is abuse, and his victims are victims.
I just feel that maybe Louie is also a victim of this compulsion. He’s still culpable, because he should have done something about it and got help, but he clearly has a problem and I don’t think that it just boils down to him being a bad person.
Kevin Spacey (mentioned above) is, I think, known for being unpleasant. Roy Moore’s just an awful person. For them, their offences just seem to flow from their natures. Louie, though, I hope has a shot at redemption… if he takes that hard path.
But then, maybe I’m just saying that because I liked him and my judgement is clouded.
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Nah, someone else. I can’t find it now, but it wasn’t Wagner. Someone I’d never heard of.
There’s a difference between flashing and using your position of power to force someone to watch, for an extended period of time, an extremely sexual act while they are trapped and don’t know what you might do next.
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This really sucks as I have been a huge fan of his for years. Dammit Louie! Fuck.
When I heard this on the radio I really wanted it not to be true. I caught myself making rationalizations, which are obviously bullshit. Dammit.
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Does the money, power, influence, fame, whatever turn those people into assholes or just exaggerates something thats already there?
Yeah. I should’ve known better than to come back to this thread/site/whole being awake and reading on the internet thing.
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How is it possible anymore to express the strongest disapproval and not sound like you’re rationalizing a person’s behavior? Everything seems likes it keeps breaking into smaller and smaller pieces.
This behavior by the perpetrator-comedian is wrong. Full stop. Non-sarcasm. Non-comedy.
I don’t even know if sarcasm works anymore. Example:
s/ Well, it’s not like we could expect this, now could we? /s
See above. Sarcasm. Doesn’t work. Broken.
It seems like social media is reaching a singularity.
I’d like to call this new singularity “Fractal Poe,” but maybe there’s already a meme for that.
Hmm. “Fractal Poe” …
EDIT: See my post on Roy Moore.
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Et tu, Louis?
This is disappointing to me because I like Louis C.K., because he does deal with this kind of thing in his comedy, and because I would have hoped that his comedy about this was revealing his internal struggles rather than revealing what he was putting other people through.
When I hear a comedian describe themselves as “not a good guy” (thanks @snowlark), I’m sure I’m not the only one who feels a swell of empathy and wants to say, “Come on, don’t be so hard on yourself.” Ugh.
And for anyone defending him, let’s not get into a goldilocks effect where start judging people’s sexual misconduct against the norm of other people’s sexual misconduct just because it’s all over the news right now. We could make a big scale where “inviting a co-star to your room and then, without warning, getting naked and masturbating in front of them” is at one end and “inviting a 13-year-old to a trailer, plying them with drugs and having sex with them” is at another. But all of it is way down from okay.
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These three things capture my exact thoughts and feelings…
I really didn’t want it to be one of my favorite performers.
I now feel manipulated by him for this very thing, and its gross.
And so much of this.
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Don’t be like that.
There’s gender issues where things are complicated, and people want to jump in because a lot of media reports oversimplify things into a simple good/bad dichotomy when it’s more important to disentangle all the different social factors that led to something happening so we can work on the real issues at play.
…And then there’s shit like this, where there’s absolutely no excuse for incredibly inappropriate sexual behavior. From someone who has daughters, who does bits about NOT DOING SHIT LIKE THIS, and who is an outspoken self-declared feminist.
He has literally no excuse, and I’m right there with you on stomping anyone that tries to defend this shit.
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Maybe, just maybe, he does those bits now because it was pointed out to him that what he did in the past was wrong? Could he have evolved, as a human being, later?
No, I’m sure we’re all born fully formed and with predetermined fate, because calvinism or something.
Oh, well some rando on the internet thinks he might be sorry; my bad, I’ll stop saying anything about it due to your unfounded opinion.
…Said nobody ever.
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Thanks for keeping an open mind and engaging your fellow human beings in good faith.
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How do they matter? I mean come on…they’re fine, so they saw his wiener…no big deal right? I mean come now…HE was going through a divorce!!! It was a rough patch!!! He was in a dark place!!! In what world does it matter what the victims here were going through or how they felt.
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Sorry, it’s hard to take you seriously in this context.
To turn it around, what’s your cutoff on “Well they might have felt bad about it later, maybe, so it’s fine really”?
Is it assault? Domestic violence? Murder? Jaywalking? There’s a point at which “feeling bad” doesn’t really cut it, even if you change your tune.
IIRC, these women feel that this affected their careers, and that they were powerless to speak up because of Louis’ position in the industry. This isn’t just some “poor misunderstood dude that went through a bad spot”, it’s someone who abused their position of power badly.
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Will nobody think of the children!
It has to be pointed out, that randomly pulling out your dick and jerking off in front of people is wrong? Oh dear…
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