A brand without a base: Kmart, Sears, TJ Maxx, Marshall's, Neiman-Marcus join Nordstroms in kicking Ivanka Trump's products to the curb

[Mister44]

OWNED by a person, but he has nothing to do with the event? Like it could be a concert or birthday party or wedding reception?

I dunno - I have better things to do with my time than to vet every dollar I spend to make sure it isn’t going to some asshole. Which is impossible to do anyway. This guy probably also is invested in other stuff you don’t know about, such as stock in Walmart or Target or Starbucks or a local restaurant. Every dollar I spend will see a portion of it go to a drunk, a wife beater, a Klansman, and/or a pedophile. That is the reality.

I’d never got to an event he was hosting or speaking at, but if say KMFDM was playing at that venue, I’d still go.

[waetherman]

But this isn’t a situation where we don’t if the money is ending up in the hands of a drunk, a wife beater, a klansman or a pedophile. We know for certain that the president is benefitting from this event (one way or another). And the building isn’t just owned by him, it bears his name as a standard. That suggests a much closer relationship between the property and the man, the brand, and the policies.

I don’t know who KFMDM is, but would you go see them in the David Duke Oprey House?

Edit: after reading about KFMDM, let me ask another question; do you think they would ever agree to play in the David Duke Oprey House or a Trump property?

*note: just to be clear, the David Duke Oprey House is not a real thing

[Footface]

@Mister44

I dunno - I have better things to do with my time than to vet every dollar I spend to make sure it isn’t going to some asshole. Which is impossible to do anyway. This guy probably also is invested in other stuff you don’t know about, such as stock in Walmart or Target or Starbucks or a local restaurant. Every dollar I spend will see a portion of it go to a drunk, a wife beater, a Klansman, and/or a pedophile. That is the reality.

In the hypothetical, you don’t need to wonder who owns the place. You don’t need to consider that everyone is connected to shady shit if you move out enough degrees of separation. You know the Grand Wizard owns the venue. It’s common knowledge.

Even if you’d still go, do you at least acknowledge that deciding not to go is also valid? Or is a decision like that necessarily superstitious nonsense?

[Mister44]

@waetherman

would you go see them in the David Duke Oprey House?

Well - that there is different than the original question. Going to the “Uptown Theater” for a concert, which happens to be owned by a racist, is a bit different than going to the “KKK Grand Oprey House”. Yeah, something named like that would give me pause.

ETA - note on the front page they just renamed Yale’s Calhoun College to something else - and Calhoun was “a Yale alum and notorious enslaver and advocate of slavery”.

Ironically, the band leader DID stay at a Trump property recently because that is what Priceline found as the cheapest (with a pool for the kid). He wasn’t super happy about it, but that is what you give up when you use priceline. I guess the consolation is they are doing so “well” that they are the best price on Priceline, and I am sure the people who work there are nice.

But again, I wouldn’t personally plan at event at this guys place. That would be your direct support. But if say a relative or friend had wedding reception there or a band I liked booked there, I would go.

Bands rarely set where they play directly. The tour managers do. And let’s be honest, they can’t do a background check for every podunk place they play at. Nor, if they were big time, if they went to one of the large venues with a board of directors and multiple investors, you’re guaranteed to have a racist some where in there. Especially in Alabama.

@Footface

Even if you’d still go, do you at least acknowledge that deciding not to go is also valid? Or is a decision like that necessarily superstitious nonsense?

Going or not going is valid. I wouldn’t say it is superstitious or nonsense. I would acknowledge that it doesn’t matter one way or another. He got his money when whomever booked the event. So you aren’t really fighting the power - but if it makes you feel better, don’t go. Just don’t think about it too much, because, like I said, you can’t possibly do trade and buy things with out involving people you don’t like. Well - near impossible.

Hell, anything you buy from China supports their authoritarian regime. Many of our goods, especially soft goods from over seas, support child labor and harsh conditions. Diamonds and rare earth metals (the ones you use right now to read this) often come with blood on them. You can’t even enjoy a god damn candy bar with out thinking the Cocoa farmer may never have actually tasted chocolate.

So you can either remember all of this always, think that the world is awful, and it’s best to just stay home - or not.

Can you tell us the event? If it was a social function involving family, I’d be more likely to attend.

[L_Mariachi]

@waetherman

the David Duke Oprey House is not a real thing

The David Duke Osprey House would fit right in with the Rot Dumpland Eagle House

[anon33466019]

@anon36155390

He could, for example, make an order that says that all employees of the USDA have to wear clown noses when they come to work

Please. My resume would be in the office in a new york minute.

[Drew_G]

Go whole hog and have an anarcho-communism theme party.

[stano]

This has been photoshoped. Redditors found out. The barcode ends with numbers 01500 that means the price was 15 dollars.

See discussion here:

r/pics - Ivanka Trump clothes now on sale for $1 at Marshalls

Here is the original photo

[Michael_R_Smith]

But he could order the military to shoot any person not wearing Ivanka’s stuff.

[Michael_R_Smith]

This whole Trump presidency is not going well for Donny and co. They are losing their businesses, and being pushed around by government much more than would have happened otherwise. There was speculation before the election that Trump was going to find a way to clean up by being President. But the current situation is such a mess that I doubt they ever had a workable plan.

[Enkita]

@LapsedPacifist

I’m not American, or indeed, Anglophone at all

Can’t judge of the phone bit obviously, but your written English is extremely good, so congratulations on that.

[anon43737975]

Honestly, I’m not sure I’d agree with that. Trump is a bigleague narcissist. Seeing his popularity drop through the floor is perhaps the only thing he’d pay attention to at this point. (Or at the very least, the evidence will come to him through his holdings, rather than ‘fake news’)

“Vote with your wallet” is well-tested. It turns out dollars speak at least as loud as votes.

(I’m not saying don’t vote, don’t campaign, etc. None of these approaches has to exist in a vacuum)

[Wanderfound]

@MaiqTheLiar

Have you been anywhere in China? Neither have I.
But they’ve been at this culture thing for a long time.

DNA confirms Aboriginal culture one of Earth's oldest - Australian Geographic

Would you like your Goanna rare or well-done?

[anon24181555]

They should have left it at that. It’s bad enough.

[bobtato]

It is childish and pathetic to refuse to use someone’s name correctly just because you hate them (e.g. “Obummer”). But then, so is the whole reality in which Turmp is President, so we’re past the point of avoiding “childish and pathetic”.

It would feel like an explicit insult to Obama, and every other president, to refer to Turmp in equivalent terms – in fact I’m pretty sure that’s exactly why a lot of people voted for Turmp – so I don’t.

[anon36155390]

@stano

Redditors found out. The barcode ends with numbers 01500 that means the price was 15 dollars.

That sleuthing definitely deserves some reddit gold.

[LapsedPacifist]

Oh? Thank you kindly. I’ve worked quite a bit on it. The accent, alas, is Christoph Waltz fed through a woodchipper. Can’t have everything, I guess.

@anon43737975

Honestly, I’m not sure I’d agree with that. Trump is a bigleague narcissist. Seeing his popularity drop through the floor is perhaps the only thing he’d pay attention to at this point. (Or at the very least, the evidence will come to him through his holdings, rather than ‘fake news’)

“Vote with your wallet” is well-tested. It turns out dollars speak at least as loud as votes.

(I’m not saying don’t vote, don’t campaign, etc. None of these approaches has to exist in a vacuum)

That might be quite a good argument, actually, but I suspect it will work regardless of what @anon36155390 does. After all, the crucial bit is people not making engagements at these places. That sends the signal strong enough and I suspect that this doesn’t even require any measure of coordination because people now instinctively reject the brand.

@bobtato

It is childish and pathetic to refuse to use someone’s name correctly just because you hate them (e.g. “Obummer”). But then, so is the whole reality in which Turmp is President, so we’re past the point of avoiding “childish and pathetic”.

Well, now, if everyone jumped off a bridge…

I vastly prefer cultivating an inner non-childishness and/or non-patheticness, whatever the world outside might be. Some days I am more successful than others, of course…

[nimelennar]

@Chesterfield

You go and then do as much vandalism as possible. Maybe set off the fire alarm. Although that’s illegal if it’s a false alarm, so set something on fire first.

Yes, because vandalism and arson aren’t illegal.

[JamesBean]

Interesting. Still, from my perspective its the “made in china” part that makes it unpurchasable by even trump cheerleaders.

[Malarkey]

Come on, Macy’s! Get with the program!