Support the troops!
don’t worry, they’ll still be citizens if the parents are white
on a deeper level, of course, it shouldn’t matter
the whole concept of citizenship is about denying rights to Those Other People
But not their children, I guess.
Is that even legal?
Unfortunately, yes. I’ve been looking at the laws and military installations, embassies, and consulates are 14th Amendment exceptions. The difference is in the past for Americans abroad it was a pretty cut and dry thing - you fill out a form to claim citizenship for your child. Now you literally have to apply for citizenship for you child, and if they are denied, I guess they get deported to where they were born? Who the fuck knows. Somehow I doubt they have thought this far ahead.
The cynic in me can’t help but think this is also an elaborate way to stick it to John McCain (who wasn’t born in America).
Doesn’t that run afoul of international law on creating stateless people? Because if they’re born in an embassy in South Korea, they sure as heck ain’t gonna be Korean citizens.
Also some prominent Democrats like Tammy Duckworth.
Like I said before, somehow I doubt they have thought this far ahead. I see this as more of a “look we’re doing the immigration reform” in the “action = progress” sense, and as usual it’s in the worst possible way.
Gonna need an good opthalmic surgeon after that eye roll. I dislocated my cornea!
OH GOOD POINT
if you are a non-citizen soldier serving on a foreign military base and you have a kid, now you can be ARRESTED and PROSECUTED for creating a stateless person in violation of international law
TOLD YOU THEY WERE ALL CRIMINALS
i was listening to a podcast called “bundyland” all about sovereign citizens and white supremacists. at some point one of the people they were interviewing - who had bombed a blm building(!) - said something like:
we we’re all afraid obama would declare martial law. if trump ever declared martial law. he’d probably do it in a more careful way. and he wouldn’t be targeting us. you know.
I though embassies were considered to be territory of the country they represent…?
I suspect that very few of them have much in the way of medical facilities. “Home births” could be an option?
Canada doesn’t grant citizenship to births by foreign embassy staff. (It’s complicated, of course.)
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Paragraph (1)(a) does not apply to a person if, at the time of his birth, neither of his parents was a citizen or lawfully admitted to Canada for permanent residence and either of his parents was:
a. a diplomatic or consular officer or other representative or employee in Canada of a foreign government;
b. an employee in the service of a person referred to in paragraph (a); or
c. an officer or employee in Canada of a specialized agency of the United Nations or an officer or employee in Canada of any other international organization to whom there are granted, by or under any Act of Parliament, diplomatic privileges and immunities certified by the Minister of Foreign Affairs to be equivalent to those granted to a person or persons referred to in paragraph (a).
So going to a hospital on Canadian soil won’t make a difference.
I believe racial minorities make up around 40% of the US military service members, so yeah this is Stephen Miller’s doing for sure. He doesn’t want “the coloreds” having any kind of mobility nor citizenship.
I’m going to just drop this in here because, because well, worms in brains.
I can think of some various uses…
Carry on.
Oh yeah!
Pumpkin Spice Jesus!
This was a good one.
That’s the reverse of Trump’s proposal though. That one is for children of foreign nationals in Canada.
Trump’s newest proposal is that if a kid is born overseas to American parents, the child is not (and may never be allowed to be) an American citizen.
Canada doesn’t have birthright citizenship (which is why we don’t have to claim responsibility for Ted Cruz), but this is in addition to his desire to destroy that.