A Round Up of Resistance to Trump (Part 1)

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Enclosure: [Objections and Answers Respecting the Administration], [18 August 1792]

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Frum is fascinatingly straightforward

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Wait, what is going on!?

[quote=Frum]No wonder that Republican governors and senators, who must answer to state-wide electorates, sound increasingly queasy when they talk about ACA repeal and its Ryancare replacement. I wrote about Rand Paul last week, but he’s now seconded by many more. Those skeptics’ criticism seems increasingly based on the political risk of withdrawing coverage from those who have relied on it—and of course the House plan will withdraw coverage anywhere from millions. As they reject that risk is rejected as too hazardous, Republicans take the belated final steps on the road to universality.

And it is high time—past time!—they did so. Republicans have had too many competing goals in health-care reform. They have wanted to lower costs (to free fiscal room for tax cuts and military spending), but also to avoid tangling with entrenched health-care interests, which have decisively favored Republicans in recent years. Post-Obamacare, as before, the United States remains an outlier among advanced nations both in its absolute spending on healthcare and in that spending’s rate of growth. Even looking only at government expenditures, the U.S. spends a larger share of income on health care than Switzerland and Canada. That money does not buy better outcomes: if anything U.S. health-care outcomes are deteriorating.[/quote]

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Following a Monday morning meeting in Chicago with U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement officials, Illinois Congressman Luis Gutierrez staged a sit-in. Accompanying him was a delegation of lawyers, community leaders, activists and other officials.

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I had an interesting run-in with a typical Trumpian yesterday that really summed up for me the prevailing attitude. On another message board, some folks were saying how baffled they were at all the insanity coming out of the WH right now, and I said, essentially, “well, all the facts were out there; we knew Trump was a racist, xenophobic failed businessman with Russian connections who was known to molest women, and his chief advisor was on record saying that his goal was to tear down the American system of government. So if you voted for that, you’re either kinda complicit, or utterly ignorant.”

The immediate response I got was this, verbatim: “Not only do I disagree with your comments I condemn them. And, I am willing to fight you and those who think like you until my dying breath. Your narrative is part of the true hate group in this country, and I suggest you wake up. You sir are a liar and a deceiver of men. I will not allow you to poison the minds of others unopposed. I will not tolerate your lies and I’m calling you out.”

They never bothered to actually rebut or debate a single thing I posted. They just want someone to fight. They’re so frustrated about people different from them doing things they dislike that they want An Enemy to battle. They can’t fight ‘equality’ or ‘society’ or ‘change’, but they can punch a liberal in the face.

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Right. Having to actually explain their beliefs, let alone provide evidence, has always been too much for so many of them. Too much work, and/or too difficult.

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Gutierrez isn’t perfect, but he has represented his constituents fiercely for decades now.

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First that I recall hearing of him. Hopefully he inspires others to take similar stands. Next election will be about who fought 45 and who held the door while he robbed the country.

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Since 1993, represents the 4th congressional district:

From 1986 - 1992, was the alderman for the 26th ward, which is largely the Pilsen neighborhood (originally Czech, hence the name, but now Mexican).

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Just sharing here

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I am mesmerized by that district.

They had to get that stretch of Tri-State in there to connect those two pieces of district :laughing:

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But the death panels!

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You’ll notice that the right leaning rags call it Ryancare and not Trumpcare. Trump is setting up Ryan to take the fall when the bill either does not pass or is passed and sucks big ones.

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I don’t watch enough corporate media to know this - - i wonder what Democrats are calling it? It was Republicans who kept calling the ACA Obamacare until it stuck, making it that much easier to rail against now; turnabout seems like very fair play in this case.

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Maybe we should try getting Trumpnocare to stick, because that’s what this legislation has to offer.

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Good one.

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Trumpcare is what I have been hearing.

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I get this All. The. Time. from them. Someone here summed it up well; they don’t care what Trump does, they elected him to stick it to those fancypants Libruls and everything he does is Good and Right.

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Their follow up after that was a surreal piece of doublethink.

They stated that they righteously supported the eradication of all “Arabs” from America and Europe to prevent “race mixing” and to keep things pure, and said they were tired of being called a bigot for it. I said well, by definition, what you’re saying is both bigoted and white nationalist rhetoric, so I’m not sure why you’d be surprised. They declared that I was a violent member of a ‘hate group’, said they wanted to fight me and hurt me, and that they didn’t see what was wrong with white nationalism anyway. I left it there.

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