I mean really we gotta vote this man out. They donât have to be literally convicted as a criminal for us to say they donât deserve our vote. âelect me! I do corrupt and shady stuff but I was never convictedâ shouldnât be a winning campaign strategyâŚ
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And once heâs out of office the southern district can throw the book at him for his financial crimes and tax evasion. That should be incentive to vote him out. To rip him of his presidential immunity.
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These days there such a nihilistic desire to burn the entire thing to the ground in the Trump strongholds that Iâm very worried about there being at least 4 more years of this shit. (And his transformation of the judiciary thanks to the machinations of McTurtle will screw us over for generations.) Criminality? Who cares! Itâs all a Deep State Fake News Hillary Radical Left Muslim Sharia Zionist conspiracy! MAGA! Heâs one of us! Heâs just being persecuted for telling it like it is!
Fuck everybody that voted for this fucking guy.
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Hereâs the thing. We donât neccisarily know that there arenât any more indictments. Barrâs letter just indicates that Mueller isnât seeking additional indictments on top of whatâs already been issued by the Grand Juries.
Grand Jury indictments are issued under seal, they can only be unsealed/released with a court order by the presiding judge. Theyâre typically only released just prior to an arrest, or at the completion of said Grand Jury.
So its entirely possible there are more indictments and charges pending from the Mueller investigation proper. Theyâve just already been issued, and havenât yet been unsealed for some reason.
Just as its entirely possible that there arenât. We donât know, and we wonât until some one else gets a look at that report, or arrests happen.
As with Nixon its expected Trump would have been listed as an un-indicted co-conspirator. If the âcollusionâ happened you would likely be looking at a criminal conspiracy. And smart money was on Mueller looking at conspiracy to defraud the US. So there would be indictments specifically related to that crime, and multiple people indicted as a group. And if Trump were involved in a criminal capacity, he would likely be listed as a conspirator in those indictments. Though not indicted or charged himself.
Right wing media is already presenting it as such. Using the âno further indictmentsâ detail to present it as a total vindication. Reporting as if theyâve already seen or know whatâs in the report, and I do mean that. Clicked on Fox News to see how they were responding last night, and if I wasnât already aware that the report only goes to Barr, I might have thought they were discussing its contents. Kind of towing right up to the line of claiming theyâd actually seen it, to present what they were saying as authoritative.
WEIRDLY thereâs this undercurrent of assuming the report is bad for Trump and that thereâs more charges to be laid, potentially on Trump. Amid all the vindication talk and flip flopping on whether Muellerâs evil and biased or if he did a good job and cleared the president. There was a lot of faffing about over how people shouldnât assume its valid. And how the report should have been issued to Trumpâs personal attorneys first. How we need to hear âboth sidesâ, and noone should believe anything until Trump issues a formal response to a report we wonât have seen when he does. Along with a lot of talk of how when additional charges are filed they wonât be valid. The âwhenâ being a base assumption.
The non-insane news is focusing on the process and importance of the report being released or handed over to congress. And as a base assumption is running with the rumored expectation among those allowed to know, that it doesnât contain a head shot against Trump. And likely doesnât contain any more indictments. But that it will be very damaging to Trump and more charges are coming from other avenues.
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I know we all were hoping that trumpâs associations with Russians would take him down, but in a certain level I feel like this whole time trump himself has been steering that narrative by constantly repeating âno collusionâ. But we who were paying attention didnât like him for many reasons since before he ran, and Iâm sure heâd love if this was the only question. If no one paid attention to paying off porn stars, foreign immoluments, numerous types of business fraud, or heck maybe even mob contacts in his real estate. This manâs hands are far from clean.
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If he does clear this particular collusion charge, I donât think itâs because he was innocent but because he covered his tracks like a mob boss all along. Michael Cohen said as much that thatâs how he operates: IE: he suggests what he wants done or hires people who know what he wants without specific direction. âWouldnât it be nice if the Russians found hillaryâs missing emailsâ may have been in part a joke, but I get the sense thatâs how he does a lot of things.and it may have been a signal to the Russians that that was in fact what he wanted to happen.
Iâm a bit embarrassed that Iâm obsessing about all this on boingboing. I quit Facebook in part to get away from this and now here I am venting again online. The issues just feel too huge to not talk about.
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In explaining the presidentâs sudden announcement, White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders said, âPresident Trump likes Chairman Kim and he doesnât think these sanctions will be necessary.â
Insert facepalm.jpg here.
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Did I miss something, or has the White House has been awfully quiet since Friday?
Is it possible thereâs something problematc in the report and they canât figure out how to spin it? Did mueller say that the president obstructed justice? Am I clutching at straws? (Donât answer that, I know I am. Let me live inside this dream a little longer.)
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Trump is a devil. Beto for prez
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Maybe. Barr said he needed another day to work on the summary, when he originally said it would be released this weekend. ETA: I guess it is due tonight.
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Itâs all over now except for the shouting.
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I am a bit mystified at such a nothing burger, given how much info was public knowledge. Trump tower meeting, the Trump Tower Moscow project, ties to organized crimeâŚ
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My drinks canât get any stronger. Fuck.
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Heâs a senile misogynist, white-supremacist and extremely nasty, but we canât prosecute him for that.
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Mueller runs a tight ship. But now the report is done and exchanging hands.
Vulnerable to leaks.
I will be checking the torrent sites nightly next few weeks.
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My guess is The Real Report⢠will never see the light of day. Dems will get a âpublic versionâ soon enough after fighting tooth and nail. Me? Iâll never believe a word of it. The FBI hasnât done their job.
And how soon till Mueller is trumpâs BFF?
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