Also, 26 percent of those who support Sanders said they would vote for Trump over Warren, 18 percent said they would vote for Trump over O’Rourke, and 17 percent said they would vote for Trump over Harris.
EDIT: note margin of error on these is +/- 10%, it’s a small sample.
Dear Progressives and Liberals,
We know it’s been Jam Yesterday and Jam Tomorrow but never Jam Today for close to fifty years.
Sincerely,
The Democratic Party Inner Circle
Notice that they’re not saying DNC/DLC Republican-LIte candidates will have to compromise or hold their noses and vote for someone who isn’t their first choice. Oh, no. Only the rest of us. They’ve been doing this for half a century, and the suck has just gotten more brazen.
The Bernie bro complaint isn’t about casting aspersions on the majority (let alone the entirity) of Bernie supporters - especially since the majority of Bernie supporters voted Clinton, most of them even happily voted for her. It’s about pointing out that a negative subset of them exist, and they do.
Bingo.
(from start to finish)
The DNC has needed a shake out / up for some time. My moneys on Bernie.
Well, that’s what it’s about for the people who are making a good-faith argument about Bernie Bros. Admittedly, much like the non-Bernie-Bros Sanders Supporters, they are sadly not always the loudest voices…
I agree with this, as a Bernie voter in the primary, a Clinton voter in the general, and a holding-my-mind-open watcher right now.
But I have to say the divisiveness of Bernie gets me down, and it’s from both sides. I don’t care which side is worse, but I don’t want the left to tear itself apart over it. I wish Bernie wasn’t running, so the left didn’t have to have this fight.
This is true of every demographic, ever.
The Bernie Bros thing was a manufactured and myopic depiction meant to frame his whole base as a liberal doppelgänger of trump and the MAGA hate army. I saw him speak twice and witnessed an incredibly diverse, generations-wide crowd of both rural and urban support. My anectdotal, cherry picked evidence is at least as good as anyone else’s.
Unfortunately I think that would happen anyway. Besides, the socialist left currently seem to be more interested in getting Mike Gravel into the debates, as part of an attempt to move the other candidates to the left.
Before this gets trotted out en masse, please go check the exit polls and see how many Hillary supporters voted for McCain in 2008.
#AnyoneNotGOP2020
Any final Dem candidate will have my full support. As Sanders himself has stated and pledged, just like he did in 2016.
If it’s Sanders, who I voted for in the 2016 primaries, cool. If it’s any other current Dem primary candidate, also cool.
Step 1 is removing the GOP from the White House. Everything else is a bonus.
We don’t deny that they exist, in fact we were calling them brocialists and manarchists long before anyone came up with the term “Bernie Bro”. The problem is that some Third Way Democrats are using it to negate any debate of their own policies, and are silencing marginalised groups in the process.
If I was a political cartoonist, I’d show a smiling Sanders watching a missile (labeled “DNC Referendum on Trump”) already launched and flying overheard and toward a tiny Trump in the distance), while he prepares his own missile (labeled “Referendum on the Future”).
Psst… You know Bernie voted for a resolution calling for regime change in Iraq and also voted 3 times to continue funding the war, right? There are no “pure” candidates. It’s a myth.
How can I 
this a million times over?
No. It’s painful enough to have people re-litigating 2016. Just make it stop.
And this is one of the many reasons why we need more than our two party duopoly. Neither party adequately represents the interests of the people in it (though one is a lot better at convincing their voters that they do [I’ll leave the deciding which one it is up to you…]).
I’m all for a viable third (and fourth, fifth, etc.) party.
Until that happens it’s vitally important to keep the party that at least cares about science, evidence and having the government help the poor and middle class in some ways.
And in reality we’re now in, it’s very important that the pursuit of a hypothetically good third party doesn’t again allow the far worse of our current parties get in. As happened in 2016, 2000 and possibly even 1980 (Just considered that, I’ll have to research it.)
Both parties are not equal, the Republican party is far worse for decades now, and the difference matters both for the present and the future.
Absolutely, there is so much to be excited for, and so much work to do, that whoever inspires the voters with a clear set of actual plans to help them will win.
Standing on the sidelines hissing at Trump without a plan is only going to get the votes of voters whose revulsion at Trump is already motivation enough. And presenting a platform of platitudes without substance wont work either. Good thing we do have candidates this cycle who have actual plans to help the people, heres hoping one of them can make it hapoen.
My point is not relitigating anything, especially not the case of Hillary v. Bernie. My point is that there is always a segment of the electorate that says this, some fraction of which follow through with their threats, because they are objectively dumbfucks.
