Almost as if someone told him to. Trump has denied being involved, but I’m beginning to suspect he’s a liar.
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What tipped you off?
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Guam has a separate naval hospital. I’ve not seen any indication that sailors are being treated in the civilian hospital.
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It was sent to people who likely didn’t have proper clearance and probably had an axe to grind with cheeto. Did he panic? He skipped the chain of command. He’s not leadership material. He’s harmed the US Navy in Asia.
Honestly, I don’t know any more than you do. I just have a different opinion.
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the word “likely” is doing an awful lot of work in that sentence
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Well, he sent to to people and it was leaked to the press. Was that an “accident” on his part, or did he make a bad judgement sending it to people that were not 100% trustworthy.
This story didn’t make it to the papers on its own.
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In the Royal Navy that would mean something entirely different, probably involving recreational drugs.
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It feels like Crozier probably tried other means before this, and they shut him down. If there actually was a court martial, it would probably reveal numerous chains of correspondence between Crozier and the admirals where the admirals basically said “you have your orders, stay the course.” And out of frustration and fear for the life of his crew, Crozier went the open letter route.
Crozier probably knew this would be career-ending for him, and may have recognized it had a faint chance of ending some other careers as well. His crew recognized that he fell on his own sword for them. For Modly to go out there and tell them their captain is a jerk for trying to save their lives. What a dick.
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Is that transition complete? They’re still trying to “reopen the economy” in a few weeks, right?
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This is a naive verging on silly statement. If it comes to this, the 2A will make no difference at all. If the 1st Airborne is clearing your street, your gun collection will make you a slightly more interesting target, without increasing your odds of survival one iota. Frequently cited by ammosexuals as a reason to have firepower, but does not translate to the real world at all.
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Thank you. I often try to make this argument to my ammosexual friends. The idea that their collection of 5-6 rifles and some handguns is going to stop a squad of USArmy soldiers or even the local sheriff department is silly. Even with “equal” weapons, the tactics of trained soldiers (all carrying radios and able to coordinate actions) is going to beat whatever paranoid compound you’ve set up. The idea that an armed militia can act as a counterbalance to the government ended the day of Marconi’s first broadcast.
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Sailors cheering the former commander worth watching again:
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Who are we kidding? Ammosexuals will be the first to volunteer to form death squads on behalf of a dictatorial US government.
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The freedom to criticize our government comes with the responsibility to criticize our government. It may look like “hating” to you, but it is the highest form of patriotism.
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The first thing the Acting Navy Secretary did after resigning was to make an angry post to boing boing under a fake name, possibly Jack Kemper.
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I would have liked the former Navy Secretary instead. He resigned due to Trump’s interference in a war crimes trial
"I cannot in good conscience obey an order that I believe violates the sacred oath I took in the presence of my family, my flag and my faith to support and defend the Constitution of the United States"
Now THAT is a quality kiss-off in a resignation letter!
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He did try to go through the chain of command and was basically rebuffed.
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The coronavirus harmed the US Navy in Asia. Captain Crozier sacrificed his career in an attempt to protect the people under his command from that harm. Sounds like leadership to me.
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Sounds like heroism in the face of feckless indifferent leadership. Someone who put the lives under his command and his ship before his personal interests and did what was necessary to save them.
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Aside from the dearth of evidence that Crozier was the one who made the memo public(unless even his detractors are keeping the evidence under wraps all we have is that the distribution was wider than is typical and not directly up the chain of command; but nothing about it being to unauthorized parties); what do we think the odds are that interested parties with even modestly deep pockets have a friendly observer or two on hand in ports where American ships and fleets of interest dock; gathering all sorts of interesting inferential bits and pieces about what is going on around town, who and what is passing from ship to shore and back, etc?
My understanding is that Modly said that preparations were being made to transfer a nontrivial(~150, I think) number of sick sailors to facilities on shore; something that likely can’t be done without providing at least an approximate impression of what you are up to and on approximately what scale.
There’s also the consideration that, given the notable lack of social distance on an aircraft carrier, insufficiently aggressive measures will mean both more deaths and a visibly compromised carrier.
If the captain did, in fact, leak the memo himself; or if (which seems surprising in someone who has made it to carrier command; something that takes at least solid political instincts, and probably some talent) his first move was in fact to freak out and send a memo to everyone, prior to pinging his immediate superiors about the issue and not getting results; then the situation would look a lot less flattering for him; but unless either of those things are true it’s a lot harder to look poorly on him.
If action wasn’t being taken, a current weakness had excellent odds of turning into a more serious weakness in the longer term(it’s not like you can just press gang the ship back to capacity, a carrier needs a lot of reasonably skilled specialists); and taking action to preserve and maintain force readiness seems like it falls well within the remit of the commanding officer. If there were a way to do that silently and without any attention drawn and he foolishly chose the loud one; that’s an error on his part; but if he had good reason to believe that he had no silent option there is still a good case to be made that risking revelation in order to mitigate the problem is the more responsible option than keeping the matter quiet at the cost of making it significantly worse.
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