After Mueller report, Trump campaign attacks media. Read the note they're sending to TV producers

[Wanderfound]

@Espry0n

Get ready for every district, circuit, and Supreme Court to start their own investigations.

Gentlemen, start your investigations!

Yup.

Margaret Kimberley

[Jim_Campbell]

@Wanderfound

Trump is a crook. Trump is a fascist. Trump is chummy with dictators around the world. Trump has corrupt business dealings with criminal oligarchs all over the globe.

I agree with this part.

[Jim_Campbell]

counterpoint? https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/03/2020-democrats-mueller-strategy-healthcare.html
Personal anecdote: I saw Bernie speak a couple weeks ago, and he spent most of the time on the same talking points he’s been hitting for years (and got huge cheers for almost every one)

[someguy]

@anon61833566

If the WH and AG make it difficult or appear to be holding things up in any way/refusing to cooperate. EVERYONE will jump to “what are they hiding”

I see it playing like this:
Trump: I’m happy to release the report, but there’s no need to. It completely exonerated me. You want the report, fine, I’ll release it. It’s a great report. Says I’m the best.
Press: Please release it.
Trump: Happy to.
Press: Um, ok, please release it.
Trump: CAN YOU BELIEVE THE SOCIALIST DEMOCRAT UNFAIR ENEMY PRESS ARE STILL HARPING ON THIS REPORT, which totally exonerated me by the way??? DO YOU WANT TO SEE THE REPORT??
TrumpRally: NO!
Trump: I mean, who CARES, it’s an old report, right?
TrumpRally: LOCK HER UP! LOCK HER UP!

[someguy]

@EricE

financial engineering money laundering he’s doing

It would make it much easier for dogged reporters to follow the money in a way that is outside the scope or capability of the IRS.

[gracchus]

@EricE

What exactly are we looking to learn from his tax returns?

Who he and his company borrowed money from after banks that cared about their reputations stopped lending him money. We know about the troubled and corrupt Western banks like Deutsche Bank and Wells Fargo that continued letting that grifter borrow from them, but if he’s deep in the hole with Russian and “Cypriot” creditors then that would be worth knowing.

His “foundation’s” compliance documents are also due for a detailed review.

[Espry0n]

Nah, who would want to know whether they (the Russian mafia) would be able to extort our president and have him on some metaphysical bdsm leash sarcasm.

[gracchus]

The truly pathetic part is that those aren’t his main concerns. He just can’t stand the idea of people knowing he’s been lying about his net worth.

[Agathokakologue]

Tim Murtaugh might need a proofreader.

Either that, or he’s got a fetish about some euphemistic “collision” between Trump’s team and the Russians.

[EricE]

I agree that would be good to know; however, how sure are you that this information would be found in his personal tax returns? It would all be bound up in LLCs which are separate tax entities. My point is just that there’s a sense out there that if only we had his “tax returns” we will have some magic key to finally “proving” something about Trump once and for all, and I’m not sure that’s true. I don’t think you’d necessarily know his net worth from his tax returns either since you don’t report asset balances on personal income taxes in many situations.

[gracchus]

@EricE

I agree that would be good to know; however, how sure are you that this information would be found in his personal tax returns?

While I strongly believe that he would have to show loan originators, I’m not 100% sure. No-one is. That’s precisely why seeing both his personal and corporate returns for the past seven years, as I noted above, would be useful. Tracing the shell companies he and his creditors likely used as cut-outs would be part of the investigative process once the public and journalists had a chance to review the returns.

I really don’t care about his net worth. He’s been lying about it for decades, so any revelation in that regard would be a big yawn for anyone who isn’t an ignorant boob. But he cares about it, a lot, because of his ego and the prospect of his marks finding out.

[smulder]

@Mister44

Well they should release most if not all of the report

there will be plenty of time to have opinions about it after that happens then, won’t there

[redesigned]

This show “Orange is the new President” sucks…where is god damned the time remote? Stupid “Reality TV™”…just hope it doesn’t end in “the great filter” fermi warned us about.

[dontpanicbobby]

Hey Donald J Trump for President, Inc.
Vindictive much?

[FGD135]

So, Method to the madness?

[L0ki]

@Mister44

Ironically, the statement from Trump even says there were attempts by the Russians to collude: “despite repeated offers from Russia-Linked operatives.” So they even admit there were attempts.

That was what intrigued me about the memo. I wonder whose choice of words that was and who, if anyone, else authorised it.

It’s quite specific. “repeated offers”. From Russia-linked “operatives”. What is ‘operatives’ supposed to mean?

It’s certainly a huge step from initially denying any Russian attempts to intervene in the election to “oh, yes, Russian-linked operatives repeatedly offered to interfere in our election process but we said no every time, so that’s fine.”

[Michael_R_Smith]

@L0ki

yes, Russian-linked operatives repeatedly offered to interfere in our election process but we said no every time, so that’s fine

And they took it straight to the FBI, right?

[snigs]

He’s doing the Nixon bit, except out in the open. Publicly announcing his enemies list.

[Mister44]

@Wanderfound

Fascists are counting the votes.

No they aren’t. There are issues we always need to be vigilant to. Personally I do not like purely electronic voting and if there does pan out to be an actual scandal, I’d expect it from some place like that. We do need to be vigilant against voter and vote counting fraud. But your comment has a lot of weight and insinuation that isn’t based on evidence.

I’ve worked an actual election, and it is a bipartisan process. The vote counting is done by the various county election committees and they have redundant checks in place to keep the vote and counting honest. I suppose theoretically one could concoct a scheme, and every year there are rumors, but they pan out to be just that. Just like there aren’t millions of illegal immigrants voting, and there isn’t actually a lot of voter fraud, making the various ID laws redundant.

@Wanderfound

Kids in cages, now . Deliberately engineered famine and pestilence in Yemen, now . Poison water in Flint, now . Murderous cops collaborating with Nazis, now . Etc.

Removing Trump won’t make some of those problems go away. We have issues. At least one of those problems could be handled at the state level.

And no one is saying voting is the ONLY thing one can do. Obviously with all the protests out there and various grassroots campaigns, there are other things one can do. But for getting Trump out of office, it is going to be the most effective means of removing him other than assassination, which I vehemently disagree with. Unless he does actually have dementia and it gets to a point no one can ignore it any longer. But I don’t think it will get to that point within 2 years.

[Mister44]

@L0ki

It’s quite specific. “repeated offers”. From Russia-linked “operatives”. What is ‘operatives’ supposed to mean?

Well haven’t we charged like 2 dozen Russians from this investigation? They already admitted they met with some of these people. It seems incredulous that some sort of scheme wasn’t offered at some point. Those would be the “operatives” right?

@L0ki

It’s certainly a huge step from initially denying any Russian attempts to intervene in the election to “oh, yes, Russian-linked operatives repeatedly offered to interfere in our election process but we said no every time, so that’s fine.”

Even if Trump and his campaign didn’t do any direct collusion, no one can deny the Russians weren’t trying to effect the election. And IMO, they wanted the weakest, least capable candidate elected. Even if Trump isn’t in Putin’s pocket, he’s still an idiot and more manipulable.

Watching a Frontline recap last night, (I really should watch more PBS news, they do a pretty good job, IMO), I was reminded again about him ignoring the US intelligence statements and trusting Putin’s word of lack of involvement.

The man can not be wrong. He thinks what he thinks and that is reality.