max never said they behaved like ISIS, just that they dressed like them, which they do.
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So do SWAT cops and special forces at work, only with better armor.
It was pretty clear what he was implying.
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Why is it that people are saying that the black bloc dress like ISIS, rather than the other way around? I know for a fact that the black bloc have been dressing like that for years before April 2013.
Bujt if it bothers so many people, maybe they should go back to dressing like Tute Bianche and the WOMBLES did in the 90s.
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Dressing all in white may be a problem in the US, so copying the Ya Basta Collective is probably a better move there.
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No, but see, only bad guys dress in black, didnât you know. We can safely ignore them and anything they have to say if they dress in black! /s
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The old fart Republican âYoung Americaâs Foundationâ, who were funding these âguest speakerâ events has officially pulled out of Ann Coulterâs Thursday event at UC Berkeley.
I donât know if that means that the event is cancelled, or if theyâre just spreading the CYA while unofficially supporting it to avoid responsibility if it turns ugly.
Breitbart comments are generally butthurt and confused about surrendering to violent wimp nazi snowflakes. /s
Hopefully YAFâs visibility as the funding organization for sock-puppet student fronts was causing them problems.
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Really? how theyâre dressed matters more than their message?!
This strikes me as the clothes-based equivalent of tone-policing: âI canât listen to what you say because of how you say it / how you are dressedâ.
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The clothing is not really the issue. They could be dressed as clowns. But if they are trying to prevent someone elseâs free assembly or speech, especially mine, I would be offended. The fact that they look like someone who is about to make a beheading video does not help, but it is a secondary issue.
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So, is it fair to say you could have said âBut if I did want to listen to them, even just out of morbid curiosity, and someone wanted to stop me, I would be tremendously offended.â then?
The point Iâm trying to make is your statement is valid without the tone/look policing. 
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the only thing thatâs pretty clear is that you like jumping to conclusions.
and SWAT and special forces donât always wear black, they often wear camo and green and many other colours, depending on the jurisdiction and deployment situation.
the only other thing I see in common between ISIS and antifa groups beside their fashion sense is that they both hold silly ideologies (and the silly ideology on the antifa side isnât that fascism is bad, obviously, but that anarchism and various other dumb shit they tend to believe is good), and theyâre both violent jerks (though the level of jerkitude is far greater on the ISIS side, which should go without saying obviously).
We can safely ignore them and anything they have to say if they dress in black! /s
We should ignore and ridicule them if they go around beating people up and if they try and interfere with peopleâs freedom of speech.
Fair enough.
My guess is that they are looking for donations to go towards âfunding increased security.â Works for the government.
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We should ignore and ridicule them if they go around beating people up and if they try and interfere with peopleâs freedom of speech.
[/quote]What is sad is that antifa is harming peopleâs freedom of speech, but not in the way you or max thinks. Antifa has harmed freedom of speech because they used a peaceful protest as the zebras they needed to vandalize property. It has actually enabled the fascists in charge of the executive branch to name all protesters as enemies of the state, and he doesnât have the support to act on it but he certainly would. Thankfully, Trump is president and not governor or even mayor.
That is why antifa causes a problem, not the very idea of protesting speakers publicly. To say that is against freedom of speech is antithetical to freedom of speech, and branding antifa as thugs hunting down people to beat up is just enabling more of the propaganda that has sharply divided the country and normalized extreme authoritarian government.
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Yes, youâre right. But I think both are a problem, they allow cover for describing all forms of protest as violent protest, when itâs not. But they are also explicitly blocking, or attempting to block other peopleâs freedom of speech, which is wrong imho. So they harm both the rights of legitimate protestors, and the rights of the arseholes theyâre protesting against. Both people deserve the same rights AFAIC, it doesnât matter whether you or I agree with the content of the speech being prevented.
But right now they donât have the same rights, the speakers have many more rights than the protesters. The speaker has the money and funding to block out dissension, and is actively attempting to through propaganda - but you are defending the propagandistâs right to use an unfair advantage in delivering speech by saying they are the same.
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Iâm not saying theyâre the same, Iâm just saying that the use of violence is unacceptable and preventing someone from airing their views, and thus preventing others from evaluating - and countering those views if need be - is also unacceptable.
Thatâs why I think that peaceful protestors need anti-Antifa tactics. Donât give them a crowd to blend with or melt back into. Literally distance themselves. (Thatâs not new. Itâs right in the Berkeley U suggestions.)
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Or if there were some gaudy apparel item from a Pacific island thatâs resisting Trump? (Some lefties claim that itâs a state now. Iâm not saying either way, but other people, the best people, disagree. /s )
HmmâŚI like that.
I love when I see comments like this (/s) because it tips me off to no longer take someone seriously⌠(equilibrium, itâs a thing!)
But seriously, I suppose you think those of us here that identify somewhere along the left-libertarian line are silly as well?
Most anarchists are pacifists, silly.
Care to expound further on what qualifies as âdumb shitâ? Is it democracy? Equality? Free association? Empowerment of individuals and communities to control their own affairs? Living within our means as a species, and the equitable distribution of necessities for survival?
I would argue that itâs at least as stupid to believe that the prevailing socio-economic structures of the world can provide the tools for solving the existential crises we face as a species, considering in the least that these crises are born of (AGW, never-ending nuclear detente) or reinforced (incessant division, massive inequality, neo-colonialism) by them.
âThe only way to deal with an unfree world is to become so absolutely free that your very existence is an act of rebellion.â
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Whatâs really sad is that more people in this country seem to care for broken windows than they do for human lives.
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