This, too, @Pammy…
Thanks, @the_borderer!
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The Electoral College and current demographics mean that both parties often take particular electoral votes for granted: Democrats regularly win California and New York, while Republicans win Texas and Georgia (however, things have been closer than usual in those states this year).
It is interesting to see how these two states have diverged so much in just six years. I remember in 2016 how the possibility was being entertained of Texas flipping blue while Georgia was written off.
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I don’t confuse policy with politics.
I’m saying that they don’t disapprove of MAGA, really, because their actions continually state that they don’t disapprove of it. What they tell polls and why they’re lying to the polls (and likely, themselves too) is of no concern compared to what they actually do and who they actually stand for.
They can’t disapprove of MAGA and then vote MAGA straight down the line. Those two facts are mutually exclusive.
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Quite honestly, GA flipping was down to 2 things - the organizing that Stacy Abrams did, state wide and the demographic change, especially around Atlanta. ATL has become a prime location for the reverse migration that’s going on… I will also add that I think that the GOP in GA still has a strong, moderate strain. The further outside of the metro area you go, the more radical the GOP gets, but part of the reason why MTG moved up to the 14th to run for office (well, she moved after she won) was because she lived in the 6th which had barely gone for McBath before they changed the district to be a bit redder… The metro GOP isn’t completely dominated by the far right.
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I don’t think you get it. They can disapprove of MAGA and vote straight ticket R. Nothing mutually exclusive about it. It’s like a reflex. And noone should expect logic or consistency from conservatives of any stripe.
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I do get it.
You’re saying that they can say it and then just vote for exactly what they say they’re against.
I’m saying they’re deceiving themselves and that it’s a distinction without a difference.
Disapproving of MAGA means not electing MAGA. Period.
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… and anyway the Republicans haven’t won a popular vote since, like, 2004 
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The simplest explanation might be that Democrats and Democratic policies are only slightly less unpopular.
I think its that the media would rather give exposure to someone espousing policies of “kill all the [target of the day]” vs someone promoting policies of “treat everyone fairly”.
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Then why do things like their positions on health care, immigration, gun control, and the environment do well in polls? 
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For the comparison to “the Germans that were not Nazis, but went along” to ring at all true I will need to see them not only turn their backs on it (hopefully without a brutal war first that destroys MAGA), then do everything that they can to prevent it ever happening again. Outlaw red caps, images of red caps, and red caps being in videogames.
Then I will start to take them seriously
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Publishing liberal positions will get good polls, but I think most people have learned that party platforms are just empty talk. I mean, I am profoundly in favor of several things in the Republican list of positions given up above - for example I want good education and a good economy. But I know they won’t deliver either of those things.
That’s because “good economy” is about as much a policy statement as “more betterness”, it promises nothing about their plans. But sorry, you didn’t just claim people don’t trust Democrats to follow through, you claimed their policies are unpopular. I’m not seeing it.
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And pretty much since Reagan they’ve been doing everything they can to wreck both a good economy and good education for all. They mean a great stock market, not the vast majority of us flourishing. It means tax cuts and deregulation, and not investing in the majority of Americans and in our shared infrastructure… For education, they mean private schools that cater to the elite class to ensure they end u in the ivies, and harsh religious schools for everyone else to teach them discipline and just enough literacy to do the grunt work of society…
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Like, you know, lowest unemployment in 60 years, highest GDP growth in 80 years, meaningful wage growth, all at the same time? Or things like 90% coverage of Americans with healthcare?
Yeah, such bullshit. /s
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You mentioned that Democratic positions poll well, and you’re absolutely right. It’s one of the few things in the modern political landscape that makes me hopeful about my fellow voters.
But having lived in Delaware most of my life, I can tell you that (around here, at least) Democratic policies in action sure don’t look much like their positions. Our public school system is a pathetic shambles, guns are everywhere, illegal immigrants paid less than minimum wage have driven locals out of the landscaping and lawn trades, health care is unaffordable, the rich ignore the law, the Wilmington police are the most vicious and least honorable gang in Murdertown, bribery is rampant, this is the reality of life here. Democrats are in control, and this is what we have.
Personally, I believe the two party system will corrupt any player in it. Because they don’t ever have to keep their promises! They just have to make you hate and fear the other party more than you distrust and hate them…
…I mean, not that I expect any State can do great all on its own when you talk about things like schools and guns and health care. But Delaware doesn’t actually sound all that bad. A couple years ago it was actually one of the few states where polls showed most people thought their government was effective. I guess the opinion must be different on the streets. 
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That’s what he said in the post you’re responding to.
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Sounds like a cromulent definition of the term ‘politics’!
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Then, as now, fear-mongering [on Nixon’s part] worked…
Amnesty. Acid. Abortion.
Those were [some of] the buzzwords used by the Nixon campaign to describe McGovern’s positions; and Agnew was blowharding his way around the country as well.
Of course, Nixon had Incumbancy on his side, and the usual “I’m about to end the War” bullshit.*
What really did McGovern in was the revelation that his pick for Veep had undergone shock therapy for depression, and the resulting kerfluffle over What To Do About It.
The Southern Strategy was well underway at that time; it was a mixed blessing for the Democrats… it pretty much purged the party of most of the most blatant racists, but their votes went with them as well. Even so, there was infighting between party factions… the Old Guard wasn’t going away peacefully.
Again, Fear-Mongering works. So does Jingoism.
The Nixon campaign was good at both.
There’s not a great leap from “My Country, Right or Wrong” to “You are either With Us, or you are Against Us”.
Nixon’s credibility with those in the anti-war movement was nil; and it was pretty obvious that the war was unwinnable without drastic escalation that fhat few had the stomach for.
We certainly didn’t want to get Russia involved any more than they already were… and China, at the time, was inscrutable, but probably content to let things play out, given their historical hostility towards the Vietnamese, & animosity towards the Capitalist Pigs…
True, that… and today’s Christofascism benefitted from that injection of bigotry, xenophobia, & hate.
Yeah, people forget that there used to exist a creature known as a Liberal Republican.
Nixon wasn’t one of these, of course, but back then, there was considerable overlap between the policies of the major parties. How those policies were implemented seemed to be a major difference between them.
Politics in this country have stratified since then:
*Of course he resumed Massive Bombing after the election…
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