Anti-Vax MAGA cartoonist not just relying on beet juice to treat his COVID-19

The Gizmo article doesn’t do a great job of keeping in context of the antecedents. But I think the “we” is referring to him and his wife.

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The one that Brainspore interpreted differently from how I did.

Never mind, thanks, questions answered. :+1:

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I have yet to see any “logic” posited for how horse de-wormer (for somewhat large parasites) is supposed to do anything against a virus. Let alone that said de-wormer is itself a product of “big pharma”. :face_with_monocle:

They just make this shit up and run with it, consequences be damned, don’t they? So long as it, whatever it is this week, “owns the libs” in some imagined fashion.

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I really hope that this train of thought goes big amongst the rethuglican folks.

“No no, it’s reverse psychology! The “libs” really don’t want you supporting a viable minimum wage”
“Nah! Those socialists are secretly trying to get you to vote against closing tax loopholes on large corporations!”.
“Hell no! I’m definitely supporting the pro-abortion candidate! Those reverse psychology commies are trying to get me to vote for the guy who views women as chattel!”
The “liberals” are all voting for X in a ploy to get me not to vote for X, so I should really vote for X, that’ll show them!

You figured it out! There’s no pulling the wool over your eyes!

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It’s not impossible that a drug like ivermectin could turn out to have an unexpected therapeutic effect for a viral infection and an early meta-study did suggest that it might have some benefit.

However that study

  1. Was conducted during the early part of the pandemic when the vaccine was still many months away and doctors were basically throwing everything at the wall to see if anything stuck, and
  2. Was later withdrawn due to a flawed data set
  3. Hasn’t been supported by subsequent peer-reviewed studies

So even if it turns out that ivermectin does have some effect in treating the virus, we know that any possible benefit pales in comparison to the vaccines’ ability to keep people from getting sick in the first place.

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There does seem to be a few things that the conspiracists are looking for in their miracle cures based on hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin.

  1. Already available
  2. Common and having off the shelf uses (fish medicine, horse medicine)
  3. No scientific validation
  4. FDA approved for some alternate use
  5. Easily packaged and sold by snake-oil salesmen.

I’m sure other people can come up with more. They aren’t picking these cures at random.

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I can see why inexpensive, widely available medications would be so popular in developing countries where the vaccines are either unavailable or ridiculously expensive. If you don’t have any other options a Hail-Mary cure is better than none at all.

The thing that is so frustrating here is that Americans can take the vaccine, for FREE, yet refuse to do so in lieu of unproven alternative remedies.

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If you want to feel that you are in a special subset of Americans that have special access to medicine because you are smart or because your god loves you or because Donald Trump loves you, then simply taking the same vaccine that every American has access to is unlikely to be satisfying. You want the special medicine that only the “right kind of people” are in the know about. Once you are at that point, you are a sucker, and point 5 is probably the driving factor.

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…and is FREE.

i don’t get it, honestly. supposedly conservative people would rather spend their money on unproven things to own the libs rather than just save their money and get the free thing. oh, and of course, risk death.

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Because it deactivates the virus in a petri dish. And if you are thinking that sounds stupid, yes it is.

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Well, in in vitro experiments it does give results, but the amount you’d have to give a human is over 100x anything that you receive when you take it for its current pharmaceutical use. Off-brand uses aren’t crazy as such (eg, thalidomide, sildenafil, minoxidil). It’s just that, in this case, they tried it, it’s not practical, move on.

To put it mildly. It now looks like that study was a complete fraud.

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So he finally comes out as a furry.

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Let me add my thoughts and prayers.
I’m sure you can imagine what they are. I’d be specific but, you know, good taste (but no empathy for people like Garrison who are complicit in causing deaths, that is, literal killers).
Clear enough?

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That’s a hell of a hill to die on.

What a surprise. The Governor ‘encourages’ vaccination, but is anti-mandates for either vaccinations or wearing masks. He would probably get more publicity if Montana weren’t so sparsely populated [less than 1/2 the population of Houston in an area nearly the size of Texas].

According to the linked article, he & his wife dined with another couple. The next day, all four were ill.

One wonders how many people there will die from non-self-inflicted ailments because the hospitals are clogged with True Believers…

At least he won’t be taking up a valuable hospital bed:
“I would never go to a hospital with Covid. Robert David Steele did it a few weeks ago and they killed him. The hospitals get extra money for Covid death reports, which is necessary to keep fear ramped up,” Garrison claimed in an email to Gizmodo.

Also, according to the Gizmodo article:
(Garrison has been banned from Twitter for supporting the insurrection at the U.S. Capitol on January 6.)

Fuck him sideways with a cactus. He wants to win a Herman Cain award, let him!

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Imagine thinking that the people who dedicated their entire careers to saving lives would flat-out murder you for a $5 kickback from the Feds.

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good luck trying to beet covid

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I just saw this one now that Ben Garrison’s possibly imminent death is bringing more attention to his comics. I guess he doesn’t know that the Don Quixote character was a delusional loon and the phrase “tilting at windmills” means to attack imaginary enemies?

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However, there are dozens of actual antiviral compounds that are much more likely to be effective.

All of the vaccines outperform remdesivir, which at least seems to have a mild positive effect against COVID, but none of these chuckleheads are clamoring for it. At least it’s an antiviral drug!

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