I think the more shocking part of the story is that there is
still a company that creates archie comics.
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this episode of reality seems to have been written by seth mcfarlane.
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Im sure people shouldnt be blanketed. And that abuse is bad, no matter the victim. I think its worth defending those statements.
If you want to go exact, yes i did say âas badâ , I guess i could be clearer , im sorry. Not exaclty my first language:
sexist abuse on a woman is bad both because it happens and because the societal situation around them ensures less protection about those.
However that doesnt mean that abuse on men should be dismissed or made light of. The double standard is pretty creepy.
Some of those posters that I was replying to were dismissing abuse on men simply because it was practiced on men.
Its never good to condone abuse, one way or another.
You seem like a reasonable person , I think you would agree with that.
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You are right, prejudice is the term. Thank you.
Strong convictions are to be admired. If you are willing to give up your job, house, etc to back them up to some other less fortunate minority or other âdisenfranchised groupâ member, I tip my hat to you, Sir.
As to âonly so much harmâ, ANY harm to ANY group is too much. And at what point do we stop the clock and say" Time Out, the white guys have been harmed too much, so now lets roll to see which group acts as their replacement.
And as a straight white male, Iâd really like a chance at this âEasy Streetâ I keep hearing about.
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Being a SWM doesnât automatically make life easy. But you have to be practically blind if you really canât see that it does make life easier.
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Itâs not a free pass at life, itâs a discount ticket on hardship. All other factors being equal, youâre almost always better off being a straight white male than any other group.
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Perhaps she just has a very odd variant of TouretteâsâŚ
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Since the law suit is about gender discrimination, I realize gender politics are hard to ignore, but considering the Hell Angels, obsession with her husbandsâ handgun, and stalking accusations, Iâm more inclined to focus on the batshit crazy aspects. If true, these are much more disturbing than the frequent cries of âPenis!â
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It seems like the point you are making isnât controversial. Its just that the language used when discussing these issues can be very powerful, so it pays to be as clear as possible.
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Unless you work in Linden LabsâŚ
If groups are to be judged by their lunatic fringes, then it doesnât look too great for feminism either. Granted, Iâve briefly posted on the MR subreddit and ran into quite a few straight-up misogynists, but in my experience, the amount of crazies is higher than in the moderate feminist subreddits, but not significantly so. The amount of demonization, e.g., comparing MR to white power movements, seems somewhat disproportionate. I encourage everyone to go there, read a couple of side bar links and discussions, and form their own opinion. Maybe reddit doesnât house the real MRs though, I donât know.
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And they say that chivalry is deadâŚ
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Itâs not a free pass at life, itâs a discount ticket on hardship. All other factors being equal, youâre almost always better off being a straight white male than any other group.[/quote]
I see where youâre going with this. As a SWM, I have the POTENTIAL of having an easier life, therefore I am automatically a winner in life and therefore I should feel guilty.
I am officially humbled, as the two of you are obviously the products of modern higher education, and not having been properly schooled on the damage my race and gender has done to the world and society as a whole, I am ignorant of just how good I have it.
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No. As a SWM, your class does not experience widespread systemic discrimination on a scale that warrants special legal protections. You can sue someone for the harm theyâve caused to you as an individual, itâs just harder to sue someone for the harm theyâve contributed to all the poor oppressed straight white guys out there.
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Exactly, and Silberkleitâs argument for why the case should be thrown out seems to suffer from the misapprehension that since men are not an oppressed group, it is acceptable to sexually harass men and discriminate against them.
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Itâs never too late to get educated. Nor to lose the sarcastic sneer.
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And there is the problem. Thinking in terms of CLASSES instead of INDIVIDUALS. As a small business owner, I deal with individuals every day. I have never had to deal with a class in a transaction. Individual interactions are the normal day to day function of the majority of people. I contend that itâs the people that insist on grouping people into classes that are the problem with society. As far as Iâm concerned, everyone is equal until proved otherwise. Meanwhile, Iâm considered unequal (or more than equal), and minorities or other groups are automatically considered less equal by those contending that there is a need for systematic inequality to âlevelâ the playing field. I reject your entire mode of thinking that automatically applies âclassâ prejudices, therefore falsely assuming a need to correct them.
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Sarcasm is sometimes the last refuge a person has to protect himself from profound inanity.
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And I reject your mode of thinking that fails to realize that women and members of other groups have long been discriminated against, just for being members of those groups, and for failing to realize as well that as a result, they havenât caught up yet. AND that theyâre still often discriminated against.
You sound a lot like the white guy in this concise, insightful cartoon. And yes, it does matter that heâs white, and that the other person is black. Because race still matters, and so does gender, and class, and sexuality, and so on.
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