Interesting that according to this a gun has no effect on the outcome. At least for the human. There have been two fatal bear attacks here in Alberta this month, both predatory. I suspect bear spray would be less of a deterrent under those circumstances.
Have your dog neutered of course and at the right time.
I would recommend that if you deserve a dog in your life then learn your dogs behavior, barking and panting are nuanced and can mean very different things.
My guy would bark at anything in very different circumstances but the bark would sound the same… he barked to greet me!
When Max barked at a stranger or something he thought was a threat I began to praise him “thank you for protecting me, thank you for looking after me”… Max knew he had done a good job… that was in his nature and would stop barking.
Max passed a month ago and miss the barking so much
Yeah, but, wait…Calm and steady always be, Never shoot where you can’t see … and all that.
This is a totally sensible arguments against gun ownership without training and vetting. She should not have shot at the puppy but she also should have had the skill to hit, and to hit only what she intended to hit.
OTOH, of course, even trained soldiers miss most times in a real combat situation.
Her gun is none of the government’s business. Her uterus on the other hand need to be heavily monitored and controlled.
This is a totally sensible arguments against gun ownership without training and vetting.
It’s a sensible argument against gun ownership in general.
As an irresponsible gun owner she injured her child.
As a trained gun owner she would have killed an innocent puppy who only wanted to play.
As a non-gun owner the worst that would have happened would be a bit of slobber on the child.
Right words, right actions, right gun.
Too many of these hotels just never comp unlimited ammo, thinking it’s an ingestion risk. As though parenting shouldn’t get tax credits for at least one (comped!) Tito’s Rum a month.
To be fair, I need the gag gun here (banner marked ‘Pop!’ to unfurl from barrel, but not tear off and get swallowed) that’s distracting for puppies so they don’t love and share too much at once.
Guns reliably kill bears. Very few people have been fatally attacked by a dead bear.
Bearspray is specifically designed to not kill anything.
I’d say a pissed off bear is probably more dangerous than a dead one.
I think the point of the article in that bear hunting page @pfranz quoted was that if you shoot an attacking bear you’ll probably still be injured before the bear succumbs, whereas the bear spray might deter it…all theoretical I’m sure anyway. The point I was trying to make, not very coherently I realize, is that of the two fatalities in Alberta in May, they both appeared to be the result of stalking; the woman was in her yard, the man, an experienced outdoorsman, on the trail. Probably bear spray or gun wouldn’t have been effective in either case. The hiker must have had bear spray with him, probably no gun, though. In Canada, you can’t carry a handgun but you can carry an arbitrarily short barrel shotgun if you desire . A couple other bear fatalities in Alberta have been fishers standing in water in waders, probably unaware they were being stalked. I have a relative who is a very avid hiker living in central to northern B.C., and her partner runs a grizzly bear experience business. I’ve asked her what the most effective deterrent is and it’s a kind of a sensitive subject, but big dog seems to be the answer. Here’s a bear they encountered last month in a hot spring they thought they were going to spend the morning in
I’d say a pissed off bear is probably more dangerous than a dead one.
Wait, are we actually questioning if bear spray deters bears? How many people do you know where pepper spray just makes them more angry because they shrug off the other effects?
Not a whole lot of people, that’s true, but bears aren’t people.
I’m not pro gun, but if I had the choice between encountering a bear while I am armed with a gun, or bear spray, I pick the gun.
Granted I’ve only ever encountered bears while myself unarmed anyway.
Not a whole lot of people, that’s true, but bears aren’t people.
No they’re not, but they’re fellow omnivorous mammals, with capsaicin-sensitive receptors and an instinctive sense whether prey are worth the fight to take down or not. The idea that bear spray makes them more likely to attack seems crazy to me. Do we really think hikers who carry it have all been duped?
Do we really think hikers who carry it have all been duped?
It’s a lie by Big Spray.
Guns reliably kill bears.
Not so much. It takes quite the hand cannon to stop a bear from attacking, even if it eventually dies. A high-caliber rifle might get the job done at a distance but isn’t so easy to hit with at close range.
ah yes. if only she’d shot her gun correctly all would have been well.
That’s not what I said at all. If she’d had any basic firearms training, she would have known this was an unsafe and improper situation to use her gun in the first place.
Are you sure about that? There are documented cases of firearms instructors making similar fatal and near-fatal mistakes while teaching students.
That just means those instructors got careless, much like this woman. A lot of rules can be summarized under “if you’re not certain the shot is safe to take, don’t take the shot”.
But you said “if she had any basic firearms training”, which we can presume the instructors would have, right? So it isn’t a question of that at all, it’s a question of some level of care that even being trained doesn’t ensure. Which, you know, would make firearms safety is kind of beside the point because there’s no good way to make sure it happens.
got careless
That might be an understatement of the situation where a firearms instructor handed a loaded Uzi in full auto mode to a 9 y.o., who immediately proceeded to splatter said instructor’s brain matter all over the room due to the recoil.
That is but one example of many.
I’m trying to say that guns have to be handled responsibly, every single time they’re used, or the results are tragic.
I have no ide what you’re trying to say.
I remember that incident; I can’t even imagine how the people involved must feel. As I just said in another response, guns have to be handled responsibly every single time they’re used, or you get tragedies. There’s no such thing as an ‘off day’ carrying a gun. You do it right or you shouldn’t be carrying. This lady, and that instructor, shouldn’t have picked up guns.