Attempting to gun down a puppy, a Texas woman gutshot her own 5-year-old son

Basic firearms training is evidently inadequate to get people to use firearms responsibly, if even firearms instructors make mistakes during training, so it might be too much to expect from random gun-owners like this.

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Yes. U never fire until uzi the target.

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I Z what you did there…

What I’m getting is something along the lines of: there is no amount of training that makes firearms safe, just less incredibly dangerous.

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Maybe someone ought to tell the skunks that they’ve been doing evolution wrong.

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yup, exactly.

as i said above somewhere, a gun exists beyond it’s owner and the owner’s best most perfect days.

guns can be stolen. guns can go off accidentally if not handled perfectly every single time. guns can be lost. guns can be used by children thinking they are toys, or not truly understanding the consequences. guns can be used by other household members during a mental health crisis.

simply hoping that everyone is going to use them right, and no one is going to use them wrong doesn’t work. that’s the current state of things. a state of easily preventable death and violence where some people just shrug and say, oh well. should’ve aimed better

the gun is the problem

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Yeah best case scenario if she’d hit what she was aiming for would be “mother murders puppy in front of her 5-year-old child,” which would almost certainly be more traumatic for the child than the encounter with the puppy would have been even if it was an aggressive puppy.

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Well, to be fair, when it says “bear spray” it is not specifying if it is “bear repellent” or “bear attractant”. So that’s a bit of a loophole for unscrupulous marketers.

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It could in fact be something like a Dobermatic.
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My dad has some cool pics of a grizzly mom and cubs when fishing in Alaska. He did lose track of her at one point and she appeared a little too close for comfort. Last picture is a little blurry.

But everyone got out of that ok.

He used work for the wildlife dept and lived in a cabin in the middle of nowhere Alaska with one other guy and a dog named Pup. Pup was a bush dog and mostly fearless. But when a giant grizzly came poking around one night, even he decided discretion was the better part of valor.

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Yeah, not all dogs are good bear deterrents …that’s part of what I meant by “sensitive subject” . There are also those who say dogs attract bears, and those who think you are taking a dog into the bush to be “sacrificial” . I don’t agree with those positions, but I wouldn’t take a small dog into the bush, as much because of birds as anything else. I’ve seen some video of a First Nations youth camp near where my cousin lives where they have two bear dogs ( just big mutts, not the kerelian dog ) and these guys, one of whom is actually old and lame, will put the run on all comers. Big Mama and two big yearlings (probably closer to two years than one) one time, kids on a boat coming up to the dock and the dogs making sure everything was clear for them :slight_smile:
“Last picture a little blurry”
Ha, sounds a little “FarSidian” .

The congregation will now all rise and say the dog-owners creed…

  • He’s never done that before.
  • He’s a big softy at heart.
  • He wouldn’t hurt a fly (would you, boy).
  • You must have done something to upset him.
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The dog owner is not the one who engaged in irresponsible actions that endangered lives in this incident. How about staying on topic.

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I have no words for the other one. Maybe you have to be American to relate to the need to whip out a handgun and blast a puppy, or an iguana, or someone who overtakes them. The dog owner with a bouncy puppy I can at least understand.

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I want a Karelian bear dog. This has nothing to do with the thread.

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I am trying to remember the story. I think in the past he would would bark at and challenge bears, but the one that visited the camp was HUGE. Something the bear was giving off made him decide to just let it have this one. Got into a big tin of molasses in a supply shed and ate it all.

Sad story - they aren’t sure what happened to Pup. They moved to a farm house in northern Kansas, and my dad thinks coyotes must have gotten him in his old age. He was less my dad’s dog, and more a dog who liked being around my dad.

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