Banksy in the Calais "jungle" reminds us that Steve Jobs was the "son of a Syrian migrant"

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Computers not bombs?

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Not Cialis. Noted (and disappointed).

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I think, the facts to note, are quite important: His father, not knowingly, gave him up for adoption; his father immigrated out of Syria as a Benefit to the American society, (a Syria that was not at war with anyone); his father followed a belief of pan Arab relations started by this guy https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharif_Hussein_ibn_Ali ; he came from a wealthy family and applied for his immigration the US through accepted and safe policyā€™s.

As opposed to the unsafe to themselves, and ourselves plopping of hungry, angry, and most of all jobless people that you and I will have to support. With a twinge of concern, and a dollop of sadness just to add to the pot of risk. It is a lot more complicated than just irrational, and emotionful journalism.

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Because, you know, none of these refugees are skilled or educated or anything. /s

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Figuring out how to care more effectively for strangers needs social cooperation and creativity. The moral decision is easy.

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Great job and statement from Banksy. I love her/him.

Reading more and about ā€˜the jungleā€™, what a place. A terrible place, nobody should need to live like that.

Somehow, Banksy Dismayland did me think about a story of Neil Stephenson. (The bridge, which novel??)

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Iā€™m sure they are, I, just like I assume you, have multiple friends that, through the natural process of immigration, were able to pay for an apartment, take 5 weeks to find a job at a shell station or some other easy to find income source, starting there living through the a natural integration process. Mind you, I have a friend tha is an MD from his country and his application was processed through this natural process and he is now just a regular Joe. He has skills yo.

Again as opposed to the risk of something like this:

Wake up.

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Exactly. It is a tough choice, just like the kittens; how hard is it to watch a cat lady explain herself and her need to have and support 100 cats. Not a healthy moment for either of them.

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Iā€™m not sure what Iā€™m supposed to be ā€œwaking upā€ to. Some immigrants are going to be underemployed? That pretty well goes for anyone in the country. Iā€™ve known people who have gone from software development to running liquor stores, and people with no degrees that work in network security. What exactly are you afraid of?

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TEH MOOOSLIMES ARE COMING TO TAKE YOUR WIVES AND JOBSSSSS!!! Havenā€™t you heard?

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Sounds like you havenā€™t convinced yourself, and thatā€™s happy news.

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You mean Republicans?

Theyā€™re already hereā€¦weā€™re just hoping the refugees will improve the sanity ratio.

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Unfortunately, none of them will be able to vote until they become citizens!

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Iā€™m not worried. All we have to do is build a wall.

(ETA: Okay, Iā€™m choking on my own sarcasm now. Time to bow out of the thread.)

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Iā€™m sorry you canā€™t read. This is not about one side or the other. No one said the R word or the D word. You did.

As a suggestion, maybe you should read about the movie Casablanca. If you do Iā€™m sure you will find that we, the United States did not allow any one (Jewish, Christian, Muslim, or for that matter Martian) because it wasnā€™t safe for The Population coming from the counties at war with the United States.

In the movie if you didnā€™t notice, they had to fake their documents as if they were from Casablanca; Not Germany.

Please donā€™t start bringing up things that you just react to; read history. Itā€™s not a republican vs democrat. They are both useless.

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Yes, I did! I said Republicans ā€¦though I couldā€™ve been more specific and said anti-Muslim facists. Theyā€™re a drain on our economy, a poison to our society, and weā€™re better off without them.

What do you think this country was founded on? Do you really think that this country wouldnā€™t be better off if we got to replace all those refugees with all of our anti-Muslim zealots?

I call it a huge win. The fascists are proving theyā€™re part of the problem, Iā€™d rather not support them anymore, thanks.

Iā€™d rather have the refugees. At least they havenā€™t proven theyā€™re guaranteed to fuck things up.

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Wut? And not letting them in was safe for them?

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???

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