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We’re a bit in the eye of the hurricane at the moment, waiting for the candidates to be officially, er, candidates, and for the real campaigning to begin. Hillary’s been more or less letting Trump make a fool out of himself repeatedly lately, content to just point at the clown and roll her eyes, making a show of being the grownup in the room. I’m looking forward to the debates and the actual substance of the campaign.
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To cheer you up.
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I’m pretty curious to see how October goes. If Trump wins (god forbid) it’ll be a pretty wild four years, but I don’t expect anyone to do much more than talk shit about moving to Canada. If Clinton wins, I’m not sure how the immediate fallout will go.
Trump is running pretty heavily on paranoia, resentment, and conspiracy theories. Depending on how completely nuts the national mood is before a Trump loss, I could imagine a militia flavored response
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I think in terms of the white middle class liberals there’ll be a lot of complaints, outrage, and an eventual realization that emigrating to Canada isn’t as simple as it seems. I think there’s a fair chance that if you’re hispanic, black, muslim, or one of the other groups Trump is promising to harm, the response will be different. I wouldn’t be surprised to see a lot of protests, agitators turning them violent, with crackdowns and riots. There’s a lot of people with very little to lose, who’d probably decide they had even less to lose once open racists were granted power. Maybe not, no idea really, it’s a very strange thing to imagine a person less qualified, less mature, less educated, less morally principled, and less intellectually capable than Bush actually being elected.
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I think a Trump presidency will empower the racist wing of the party and they’ll actively go after the protesters, actually. BLM has been just as disciplined and principled as the classic civil rights movement under King and white fears of black nationalists are really just ridiculous, if you ask me. It’s always the white reactionaries you need to watch out for.
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“somehow good” is an interesting phrase. every president will be somehow good, and somehow bad. even sanders would have been so.
will clinton continue the wall street / goldman sachs economy? doubtless. and there are many negative repercussions that kind of capitalism has.
there are, however, other issues of importance. and of the people who are likely to become america’s next president, a right of center woman as president? that’s not a terrible thing.
we should be able to do better, but we certainly could do a lot worse.
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Which reminds me, the guy couldn’t even carry his home state. If he had done so, he would have won outright.
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Post-Brexit there was an uptick in attacks on minorities in the UK by racists feeling empowered, so I think you’d be right. I’d imagine in the US we’d see something more violent and generally uglier, though.
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Absolutely. Those fuckers only need to think the president is on their side and they will begin attacking minority communities hard. And that’s just about the only reason I can think of to vote for Clinton, sadly.
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Thanks to the Electoral College I have no reason to vote for anyone for pres. I had plans for a write-in, but those are now sadly over, and the Wee Princess isn’t planning to carry on the campaign Penelope had been running since she’s her own hedgehog. However I vote, it won’t be a vote for Clinton, but a vote against Trump. Just like pretty much every election except 2004 2008 when I mistakenly voted for Obama rather than voting against McCain.
Prescient, but you probably should have voted for Kerry.
Actually, in Texas, what difference would it make?
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I can very easily imagine some of the xenophobes freaking out and attacking people after a Trump loss as well. Because obviously the reason Trump will have lost is Mexicans, Muslims, Blacks, etc. who are somehow responsible for everything in their eyes.
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Yes… these people already feel empowered to act and they will continue to do so unless they get the message that it’s not acceptable and we won’t stand for it. The state needs to enforce that, not just as as individuals.
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One of my biggest issues with Clinton. We already had one.
In fact, when she was still leading Obama for the 2008 nomination, people were beginning to float Jeb’s candidacy for 2012 (which ended up being this year instead). There was actually a period where we had a real chance of having Bush, Clinton, Bush II, Clinton II, Bush III. At that point, it’s time to dispense with any illusion of being an actual democracy.
That’s not to say I would flat out refuse to vote for anyone with a presidential ancestor (FDR was pretty decent, after all), but it’s such a major stumbling block for me that they’d need to an absolute fucking saint for me to even entertain the idea.
Seriously, in terms of deal breakers, I put it right up there with “wants to eliminate the minimum wage”, and “endorses ex-gay conversion therapy”.
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The worst thing is my brain said ‘2008’ because it actually wandered over some date math to confirm that really was the right year. Then my fingers ignored my brain.
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