I’m no economics expert but I don’t think it will be the catastrophe (for the UK) media is portraying it to be. It’s probably a bit more shitty in the short term but in the long term it will be ok just not as good as it could have been.
For Germany and others this will probably work out fantastic. Frankfurt is probably right now cackling with glee. The second largest economy in the EU hampering itself by leaving … can’t think of a scenario where France, Italy and Germany are not profiting from it.
I do think even those that voted remain can blame themselves. The UK nurtured a decades/centuries old superiority complex over continental europe. This is the result.
for her this is the beginning of a very uncertain future - she’s living outside of the UK for over 15 years (so she wasn’t allowed to vote) and no one knows what will happen in and after the EU/UK divorce battle
Ah, well. A lot of the UK never did get the European idea. Being an island seems to do something to their heads. We must have been a pain for the federalists with out special pleading. I expect things may run a bit smoother without us. And I hope we will be back one day. But, for the record, 48% of us, and including some older people such as myself, aren’t monumental jerks.
I wish California could vote itself out of this shithole “union” we have here. Congrats to all the wise people in the UK. Why support the nonsense if you have the choice?
Shouldn’t a vote of this importance require more than a simple majority? It seems almost on the order of amending the U.S. Constitution, something we definitely do not leave up to 50% + 1 of a popular vote.
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1-Throughout this whole campaign I have been surprised by the relatively 50/50 split of the leave/stay factions. I would have thought public opinion would have leaned more strongly one way or the other. It’s a rather monumental decision to be decided by a few percentage points.[/quote]
But the actual regional splits were largely 60/40 - only Wales really approximated the apparent national mood with a result that matched the final percentages. London was 60% remain, Scotland was 60% remain, most of England was 60% leave (but with caveats that the northern urban centres were remain, and Birmingham was 50/50.)
I entirely agree that this is a terrible mandate for deciding such a huge thing - personally, I was hoping for a 52/48 Remain result because that would have triggered a full-scale renegotiation round and perhaps significant reform of the entire EU construct. As someone who is very pro-European, I think this is necessary. But we’ve shot ourselves in the foot and possibly broken it for everyone else.
Many Brits have not been too keen on the EU before. But it was never enough for an exit. I wonder what gave the final push this time. And my guess is immigrants vs xenophobes. The right wing reactionaries have reached a critical mass in many countries in Europe now and have started to affect policy changes in various areas. I’m starting to consider where to emigrate to. The US? “Ha ha”…?
Apparently the Labour Party was somehow supposed to dig Cameron out of the mess he has got himself and everybody else into. Despite his endless insults aimed at Corbyn and his description of him and Khan as “terrorist sympathisers”, somehow Corbyn was supposed to solve the problems of the Conservative Party.
I didn’t vote for this and I live in a part of the country that voted Remain.