Look, this is old news and my point is not rehash this all that happened and came out before the convention. My posts here were about Clinton being a poor candidate because of her vulnerabilities and the fact that this was playing out before our eyes.
If you want evidence of the collusion between the DNC and the Campaign you would have a good example in the correspondence surrounding the Clinton Victory Fund. Sanders accused the Clinton campaign of keeping the bulk of this cash for themselves and the disclosed email show a series of correspondence between the Campaign and the DNC about how to respond to this, sharing information, and the DNC writing talking points for the Campaign. This is a smoking gun and is typical of their behavior surrounding issues and challenges faced by the Clinton campaign. And then they both lied about this when publicly confronted.
Yes there were other terrible ideas by staff that shows the state of mind there, that never got off the ground. But that is not the issue. Its the day to day collaboration, and its matter of fact business as usual status that is crux of their bias and rule braking, what I am calling cheating.
What should have happened here, and in all other cases is the DNC should have had open communication with both campaigns with the information relevant to Sander’s challenge. Instead the DNC worked closely with the Clinton campaign to refute Sander’s claims and attempt to make Sanders look bad.
Clinton should have exited the race when all this was disclosed. Period.
A part of those similarities are from the Overton window drifting over time, rather than being the same at any one moment. But even with the premise that they aren’t as different as one might hope…are you really going to pretend the difference between a plain corporatist on one hand, and a racist misogynist corporatist whose whole campaign is about cruelty to certain groups of people, isn’t going to matter in practice to anyone?
Because this seems like more of what I said above, erasing many of the people in question. Yes, supporting a bigoted candidate seems fine, a mere personal choice or difference in perspective, if you only forget about all the targets of that bigotry. But then the whole point here is that some of us think they’re important.
It seems like only weeks ago that Democrats around the country, and some here on BB, were rejoicing at the nomination of Trump, believing that HRC would squash him like a cockroach.
I didn’t want Hillary (or any other Democrat) to get an easy win. I wanted to see the two best candidates the parties could produce having a spirited exchange of ideas. Now that this scenario is no longer in the cards I want Trump to suffer such a humiliating defeat that his party takes steps to make sure nothing like him ever happens again.
But I don’t think that the actual KKK has endorsed Trump. They did make some remarks about endorsing Clinton, but the intent of that seems questionable.
What’s your source for the claim that the KKK “made some remarks about endorsing Clinton”? Is it the same one that’s already been debunked in this same thread and which even you admitted seemed “fishy”?
As for Trump, the “actual KKK” may not have endorsed him but he’s certainly given them enough reason to having exploited racism and bigotry in his campaign. He’s even closely allied himself with bigots. As I said earlier his own running mate is a prime example.
Many individual Klan leaders have explicitly endorsed Trump, including both active leaders and former ones such as David Duke (who Trump and Pence still hesitate to repudiate). What’s more, those individuals and organizations explicitly cite white supremacist beliefs when explaining why they support Trump. It’s not like a bunch of Neo-Nazis just decided they like him better because they think his tax plan is more economically viable.
You do know that the KKK no longer has a nationwide organization? And that a former member of one KKK branch, David Duke, in fact has endorsed Trump. As have many other people who are indeed white supremacists.
Oh, no worries… @Max_Blancke even noted it above… yet he still seems intent on disavowing a white supremacy connection to the Trump campaign, despite all the evidence to the contrary we’ve all shown. I honestly don’t know what else we can all say. We’ve all become repetitious on this and there is probably little else we can all say to change minds at this point. It seems like we’ve all dug down into our positions…
I think she was right to walk it back. By my estimates, only 30% of Trump’s supporters are deplorable, 30% are short term greed heads, and 30% are garden variety morons. The remaining 10% are nihilists* that just want to fuck shit up and watch society burn.
