Colorado's investment in IUDs and other fire-and-forget birthcontrol produced a "miracle"

It’s actually a kind of opposite of fire and forget, isn’t it? Fire and forget is you do it and then it does what it’s supposed to without you ever worrying about it again. File and forget is you do it and then it does nothing.

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If “nothing” is what it’s supposed to do, then I don’t see the distinction.

Aren’t all evangelicals Protestant?

A Catholic or Orthodox evangelical is downright heretical.

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“Dwarfed” is not the word I would use, because it doesn’t encompass how absolutely true that is. Here’s one measure:

This US Department of Agriculture report says:

Families Projected to Spend an Average of $233,610 Raising a Child Born in 2015

That’s between $12,000-$14,000 a year for a middle class earner to spend on their children. And as a person who’s childless, here’s how much of my income goes to crumbsnatcher-rearing: $0/year. That’s a whole hell of a lot of money without even considering the time involved in raising kids. People who deny others birth control are ignorant shitheads.

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Well, from a society-wide perspective we’re probably better off having more money spent on raising children regardless of what it does to your personal wealth. But unplanned pregnancies, it turns out, are the pits. Higher incidence of early health problems like low birth weight; twice the rate of post-partum depression; parents twice as likely to split up. We see great economic benefits to helping developing nations with contraception (I feel like this is a fact). Those benefits ought to be fully realized in developed nations as well.

The strategy to get kids for the next generation in America seems to be to make parenting heinously expensive but also to deny people access to contraception and abortion so that they have to become [teen] parents anyway. I’ll call it like it is: that’s a attempt to create a caste system where wealth and status are handed down by birth. Poor children have poor education, poor nutrition, poor medical care and poor access to contraception so they quickly have their own poor children. Who the hell is benefiting from that cycle?

A much better strategy would be to support contraception and to support raising children (funding socialize daycare also returns more tax dollars than it costs).

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GOP would focus on the word “socialized” to fight this; need more people born to buy their lobbyists’ junk, you know.

Wow. That is wrong. It just completely redefines Evangelism, the Protestant, movement to the act of evangelizing religion.

ahh yes, the political affiliation formerly known as libertarian. I like your term very much.

Catholics redefining what good works are? Shocking, deeply surprising, and also par for the course.

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This needs to be read in a “John Oliver” voice.

Technically an evangelical is a person who wants to spread [what they see as] the Good News. A Catholic friend used to say that the Catholic Church has all shades of opinion including most of the ones held by the Protestant churches. (He was a Liberation theologian and didn’t think much of the Pope). Some Catholics believe in proselytising and are like Protestant evangelicals; some are Zen Buddhists on the side.

What is worrying is that along with ignoring Papal doctrine on contraception a number of US Catholics seem also to have been influenced by backward Protestant ideas like Creationism, despite the Catholic Church supporting both evolutionary biology and astrophysics. Whosoever denieth the truth of the Big Bang, anathema sit!

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All the Republican Christians. They ain’t conservatives; they’re fascists.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2017/01/democrats_don_t_have_a_religion_problem.html

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That’s pretty conservative!
Really though, I should have specified “so-called conservative Christians.” They are their own special, fascist breed.

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At this point, they’re reactionaries and have been for some time. All the genuine conservatives would fit in better with the Libertarians or the Democrats now.

A conservative’s reaction to progress is wariness, not complete aversion.

I didn’t see this at first. Still, I’ll leave my post here as I think the difference between conservative and reactionary need repeating as often as possible.

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Which where the as you get older you get more conservative comes along… basically the wisdom to not test how deep the water is by not jumping in head first.

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I seem to be going the other way, becoming more left wing radical with every day.

It might be because the older I get the more I feel that things are not improving fast enough, and in some cases things seem to be going back to the bad old days.

I suppose it really depends on how well you fit into the world as it was or currently is.

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Me, too actually. though I suspect we’re probably not moving much and the world has shifted to the right, that we look practically like a pack of wild-eyed anarchists.

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Oh I am getting that way… but only because the depth of the water has been tested and found safe so what the hell is wrong with all the other people.

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This is a depressing theory, so i choose not to believe it.

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