It just makes this whole conversation even more absurd, though.
Totally. I know you get it. I just didn’t want my comment to be spun by someone else. Can never be too clear.
Yep! Far better to be absolutely crystal clear for readers instead of risking being purposefully mis-interpreted, as we know that happens on the internet, especially to women.
Also probably the preferred skin tone for all Disney princesses, to some.
She’s Colombian and Polish. Colombian doesn’t imply any specific skin tone, but it doesn’t matter. We know this isn’t just about how white she looks.
Wait, is Snow White her name or a descriptor?
Because White is a common surname that has nothing to do with race (just ask Jaleel White).
The original, (so to speak) from 1812
Es war einmal mitten im Winter, und die Schneeflocken fielen wie Federn vom Himmel, da saß eine schöne Königin an einem Fenster, das hatte einen Rahmen von schwarzem Ebenholz, und nähte. Und wie sie so nähte und nach dem Schnee aufblickte, stach sie sich mit der Nadel in den Finger, und es fielen drei Tropfen Blut in den Schnee. Und weil das Rothe in dem Weißen so schön aussah, so dachte sie: hätt ich doch ein Kind so weiß wie Schnee, so roth wie Blut und so schwarz wie dieser Rahmen. Und bald darauf bekam sie ein Töchterlein, so weiß wie der Schnee, so roth wie das Blut, und so schwarz wie Ebenholz, und darum ward es das Sneewittchen genannt.
https://de.wikisource.org/wiki/Sneewittchen_(Schneeweißchen)_(1812)#Seite_238
I’ve always assumed that the association of little people and mining is that it’s a job where being short enough to stand up in a mine could be an actual ADVANTAGE. So little people tended to get jobs in mines rather than farming.
Snow White-- across the schneeverse. I bet the folklorists would love it.
Hey, it could be a “solution” to people who are angry about PoC getting cast in these live-action remakes.
Although obviously it wouldn’t really help, so you might as well have a Snow White-verse were the original Disney animated Snow White is the only caucasian-cis-woman version to exist - among dozens of versions for every other skin-tone, ethnicity and gender identity.
You might want to sit down for this.
This well-loved character is not a cleric of any kind. The show still worked.
Also, what color do you think weissbier is?
That’s why they used children in mining - but apparently there was a remarked-upon phenomenon in a number of countries in the 16th/17th centuries, where children who worked in mines developed unusually stunted growth (and kids being short due to malnutrition was already sort of the default). Unusually poor nutrition, stress and/or exposure to toxic substances seems to have made these miners unusually short as children and then subsequently as adults (if they lived that long).
So there’s the Germanic mythology about short, magical beings who live inside mountains, and there were also very real, unusually short people who worked in mines… It would be interesting to do a “Snow White” version where little-people actors are just playing short humans in the story.
So you’re positing that more people know the Gilgamesh version of the stories, than know the Bible versions?
Without wanting to speak for her, I suspect she’s positing that just because one group of people wrote down some stories which had already been kicking around for almost a thousand years, and thousands of years after that, that’s the version most people know, that doesn’t make the original versions wrong, or of lesser value.
But please do continue to explain to us how the precise, exact version of the story that you know is the only true version of the story, and all the others are wrong and bad and should be forgotten.
Can we stop beating around the bush and get to the main point? Which is that legends and myths and folktales exist in multiple versions that evolved across time and distance. There is no one true definitive version, certainly not because a certain version was popularized and became commonly known. Disney certainly did not follow the stories exactly as set forth by the Brothers Grimm, and they themselves did not originate these stories.
The Weiss in weissbier (and in witbier) is wheat so you can have a dunkel or a krystall- a black or very light yellow.
Snow White can be whatever too.
They can cast whoever for the role and explain nothing. Let the viewers imagination have something to do if it must be clarified. I think that by explaining in film why a black actor playing a character called snow-white, somehow legitimises the idea that they shouldn’t. Which is nonsense. Similar crap floats around Dr who and James bond.
OK, let’s try another tack.
‘Snow White’, as a character name, refers to an outdated notion that lighter skin is more beautiful. As such, Disney should retire the name (and hence re-name the story).
(This also provides an opening to deal with the Dwarfs, if desired…)
Irrelevant, because the Disney version is the only one known to the general public. No-one reads the Brothers Grimm anymore, let alone any earlier versions / alternates.
(Well, I guess some of the younger folks will only know the name from the 2012 movie… but that assigns her name in the same way)