Continuing coronavirus happenings (Part 2)

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they’d work but people would have to wear them

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Change can happen.

WASHINGTON — Amid frustrations at the slow pace of the national COVID-19 vaccination effort, President Joe Biden says his administration is boosting the number of doses sent to states each week and will be giving state officials more certainty on the number of doses they can expect in future shipments.

Starting next week, a minimum of 10 million vaccine doses per week will be distributed across states, tribes and territories. That’s an increase from 8.6 million doses per week, and a volume that administration officials say they will maintain for each of at least the next three weeks.

States then will continue to receive allocation estimates three weeks in advance, a shift from the week-ahead figures that the Trump administration’s Operation Warp Speed had offered to state officials.

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Mike Ryan from the WHO has been intimating this is becoming likely rather than just possible recently.

To be fair he has always maintained that the disease exposes the greater disease of inequality too.

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Ars runs down what we know about:

P.1 (Brazil)
B.1.351 (South Africa)
B.1.1.7 (Boris Johnson)

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So, by my math the government is already distributing 1,000,000 shots a day, which is basically Biden’s pledge of 100,000,000 shots in 100 days. All that’s left is the getting them in arms, which I suppose the additional two weeks of lead time should at least help with.

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Its not complicated. You vaccinate those who are more likely to die from getting the disease first. Period. I don’t quite get why some people are having so much trouble understanding this, in good faith. All the contortioning to avoid this simple, obvious fact is puzzling to put it midly.

Like I said, obtuse or willfully ignorant.
Say I vaccinate that 80 year old who stays at home and has limited social contacts. She doesn’t ever get exposed and is fine.
But I didn’t vaccinate that 55 year old teacher, who must return to in person teaching because of some state order. She is exposed to dozens of children and other school staff daily for 8+ hours per day. An asymptomatic kid causes an outbreak. The teacher, a janitor and some lunchroom staff get infected. They each bring it home before showing symptoms and spread it within their households. The janitors spouse works at a grocery store, someone else at a nursing home. By the time symptoms appear, 200 people are infected covering the full range of risk factors.
You say good faith, but you seem unwilling to consider that there is any nuance to this.
I’m glad it’s (generally) not people with that same frame of mind making these decisions!

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You have had it patiently and thoughtfully explained to you why that statement is wrong. You have insisted on not listening and insisting that you know better than people who understand this stuff and do it for a living, who have spent their lives studying how to control and minimize damage from things like this. You may choose to howl into the void, but it does not make you right.
My office is down another provider because their preschool teacher caught covid and exposed her entire class. This person should not be vaccinated in your system. The fact that she was not now impacts our ability to deliver healthcare, but I guess that is unimportant.

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It’s not contortioning, it’s this simple fact:

Your black and white statement is incorrect. Death is a consideration, so are things like hospital capacity, the economy and many other factors you’re either ignoring or glossing over.

So say people who do disease control and prevention for a living, so say many peer reviewed studies. Your gut feeling doesn’t mean you’re right.

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Right?!? They act like everyone’s risk of ever contracting the disease in the first place is equal, so no consideration is needed. Just look at who dies if they get it and go from there.
It would be like giving all the civilian hemophiliacs body armor first, even if that meant military in active zones didn’t have enough, because the hemophiliacs are most likely to die if they get shot. :woman_shrugging:t2:

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