Continuing coronavirus happenings (Part 2)

Well that didn’t take long

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melodramatic facepalm gif

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More and more people every day, in fact.

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Don’t know what the actual number given was, but two cases of anaphylaxis on the first day of vaccination is not a good thing…

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Absolutely. Maybe “melodramatic” was the wrong word.

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The last time russians were told to stay away from booze for this long, Lenin recently came to power.

https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2020/12/08/no-alcohol-for-2-months-russia-tells-coronavirus-vaccine-recipients-a72280

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Thanks for taking the time to break down the numbers!
If someone sensible we’re in charge, I’d think the numbers would be weighted also by percentage of population 1) working as frontline HCWs, and 2) elderly or more at risk. But what am I saying?

Soon. Soon.

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So there’s hope for improvement there!

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Almost like some sort of anti-press sentiment or something.

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I’ve experienced full-on anaphylactic shock once (requiring a late night salvage operation in the local ER) and much much lesser anaphylaxis a couple few other times. The experience makes Pulp Fiction fun to watch, but as my heart was still beating, I got mine via IV push. Seemed just a bit less dramatic.

Reading between the lines of the reporting though, I wasn’t able to rule out it being the latter rather than the former. They induced anaphylactic reactions in people who are strongly prone to them, but were they enough to require the use of their EpiPens? And wouldn’t that factor into the total statistics? If they only got a Benadryl-level reaction from people who already carry EpiPens, that would feel somewhat reassuring to me.

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As always, more details needed. They will come along in time, this was just yesterday. Makes interpretation a bit tougher, and I always say there is nothing that someone somewhere is not allergic to, but twice on the first day does make my spidey senses tingle. Also, don’t recall hearing about any of this during phase 3 trials…

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What’s the gap in the doses? At least for the first provision, I assume they’re all for dose one, with the second dose to come in, months?

Well, I wonder if poor Covid metrics might be an excuse for sending more to some red states. And Florida basically is a nursing home…but I don’t think it would account for the discrepancies.

Trying to think of a good way to share the spreadsheet in an anonymous way.

I, what?

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Have we been transported back to March?

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Pfizer 21 days, Moderna 28 days

At this time, you cannot mix and match. You finish with what you started.

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Okay, so they should definitely be halving those numbers in terms of the people they’ll serve.

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Welcome to Groundhog Year.

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Walmart is a country.

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I was thinking of that, too. Could you just use a junk account to set up a google drive*?

*it’s probably very obvious from that statement, but I am not a computer person.

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According to the Grauniad "The NHS workers are said to have developed symptoms of “anaphylactoid reaction” .
What’s that? I mean I’ve looked it up but I don’t understand the answer. It presents the same clinical picture as anaphylactic but is not IgE mediated. Which sounds like. They would probably have used their epipens.

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