Continuing coronavirus happenings (Part 3)

Many people who live outside of an area pay wage taxes etc to that area.

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That sucks rocks :frowning:
But it’s also reassuring that they caught it before injecting people with contaminated vials, that there are enough checks and balances along the way to keep people safe.
May your next batch be sweet and pure!

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On that, we are agreed. But implementing that has to be more nuanced than, “if you don’t live here/have kids in the system, you get no say on anything,” which is how your initial comment kind of came across. We childless adults hear that kind of shit a LOT through life, so it’s easy to interpret comments like yours that way if they are at all vague.
Maybe discussion should be limited to certain topics on the agenda, guidelines could be put in place, and if a speaker veers off, maybe they get their mic turned off and are removed from the session. I don’t know, but there has to be some way that doesn’t silence well-meaning, rational community members based on their procreative history…

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so in the best case, only 3000-4000 children will need hospitalization in tennessee, and tennessee is one of those places already running out of ( and in some metro areas already out of ) hospital space and staff. yay! :cry:

guess the governor should get off the fence and require masks and vaccinations.

by comparison the bbc says of the uk ( quickest numbers i could find )

So far, more than 47 million people have had a first vaccine dose - 87% of over-16s - and nearly 41 million - 75% of over-16s - have had both doses.

it’s hard to find exact comparisons in tennessee. there anyone over 12 can get vaccinated but only around 52% of all people are.

so comparisons between england/the uk and tennessee about hospitalizations ( the first and second tweet ) are going to be apples and oranges

the governor needs to mandate vaccination and masking. that’s the only way those numbers are going to get better.

though it’s getting kind of late for that. my search for numbers lead me to an article about a school that had to temporarily close because they’ve run out of healthy teachers.

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Yahoo reprint of an NY Times article

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I have zero problem with people that choose not to have kids, I was making a point, or attempting to, that a lot of these viral videos appear to be whack jobs that have no pony in the race and are only showing up to push their agenda which has nothing to do with kids.

If you have an opinion that would benefit the education system in your community then come on down and share but normally that’s not how these meetings seem to be run.

My point about the township meeting was also, they seem to have rules, and they abide by them. A lot of these viral videos of school board meetings appear run by people who normally don’t have to deal with unruly behavior, in other words, also in my experience because I actually sat on the school board when my daughter was in school a million years ago, school board meetings are usually benign, boring, procedural stuff.

So to recap, if you have standing in my community please show up and voice your opinion but if you’re an outsider just trying to stir the pot please go back to your own community and pester them.

Sorry if my post seemed otherwise.

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From a Kansas City paper

My Kansas City nurse friend, who can’t use her name because she isn’t authorized to speak to the media, occasionally shares this inconceivable, untold tragedy with dinner companions who obnoxiously insist on spouting their anti-vaccine views to her over burgers and beer.

Some of them are shamed into silence by what she tells them. But others cling stubbornly to their defiance, even after hearing of parents who’ve left their children motherless or fatherless because of it — and left them with a lifetime of self-reproach for something that clearly wasn’t their fault.

Of course it isn’t the kids’ fault they got sick and may have gotten their unvaccinated father or mother deathly ill. While Dad or Mom could’ve easily gotten vaccinated, the children could not have. “But they still just feel terrible, because they feel like they killed their parent,” she says.

Another man — not the only one, mind you — berated the hospital’s emergency room staff for urging him to be admitted. He walked out, albeit tethered to oxygen, insisting angrily that COVID isn’t real.

“And then we found out that he was at (another hospital) within 12 hours on a ventilator,” the nurse says. “He was, the whole time, just saying, like, ‘COVID’s not real. You guys are stupid.’

“I could tell you that story about every day — that they’re just yelling at us and they leave and then they come back or they go to (another hospital) because they’re worse than when they left. And as they’re being intubated they still don’t believe it.

“We’re all so exhausted we don’t want to beg you to stay, but we do because we know you’re going to leave and die.”

These fucking assholes.

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Worth a read. With literally billions of people who are still available for infection, this is highly relevant.

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Hmm. My parents got vaccinated in Texas and got their booster shots in California, and the California vaccination people actually called the Texas vaccination center to verify their vaccination - so presumably the info is stored somewhere and verifiable somehow.

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This is wise… no of the other big fall events have been canceled… Dragon*Con and Anime Weekend ATL are both still on, for example.

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Bummer. The spell Remove Disease only works in fantasy realms, folks.

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Mine is part of my health care record with the hospital system my primary care doctor is associated with and my health insurance provider also has a record.

But, I wonder how places that require vaccination would verify it. If a third party were to call my doctor or health insurance provider or even the vaccination site that would be a HIPAA violation if they gave out that information without my permission.

I would give my permission but forms would be required, so vaccine requirements, at this point, are still the honor system.

I think.

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“Death by church” is now a thing in Texas

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I would not usually credit Pritzker with a mic drops but that was definitely a mic drop.

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Depends on who is checking. Texas is using Immutrac2 for COVID vaccines, just like most other vaccines. Another medical provider could get access to verify. An ordinary person or other kind of business could not.

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John F. Banzhaf III is an emeritus professor of public interest law at the George Washington University Law School, and the retired founder and executive director of Action on Smoking and Health (ASH). He led the successful movement to ban smoking in workplaces and public places and championed requiring smokers and the tobacco industry to pay their fair share of the costs of smoking.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/26/opinions/make-the-unvaccinated-bear-financial-costs-for-their-decision-banzhaf/

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Kind of Encouraging News!

Today, Tokyo Prefecture set up a mass vaccination center in Shibuya where people between 16-39 could get vaccinated without an appointment (this is the first walk-in vaccination center in Japan). They were expecting around 200 people per day, but people were lining up as early as 4:30am and they had a line of 300 by 7:30am. And they opened at noon.

The bad news? They then had to start turning people away because they only had 300 doses to give.

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