Donald Trump pitches tantrum at "peace meeting" with GOP senators

I can’t wait to watch him on CSPAN: “You’re fired, and you’re fired, and you, and you, and you…”

Followed by that video clip from “Der Untergang” when they inform him that he can’t fire Senators…

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“The real Donal Trump?” If you looked deep inside, you’d discover that there’s no there in there. He just spins randomly from one position to another based on his latest whim.

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Did no-one read this article: http://boingboing.net/2016/07/08/howto-be-a-smart-consumer-of.html

particularly points 2 and 3,ie: anonymous sources cited in third party news.

I like to hate trump as much as any rational right thinking person, but surely we should avoid living in the same kind of echo chamber as trump fans and truthers?

or have i missed something?

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That there is a difference between “breaking news” and normal political reporting?

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I was there to watch those port-a-potties burn. Trumps campaign does remind me of that, now that you mention it.

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so there’s a lower standard for normal political reporting?

I rely on boingboing to bring me good quality information based on a long history of doing so. inconsistencies like this nark me. search fails me for now, but the link i gave isn’t the only time I’ve read advice on bb concerning being sceptical about anonymous sources. it’s good advice, but only if it’s followed. Just because a story comes along that we like the sound of, does that mean we can discard critical filters just this one time? anonymous sources leak for a reason and those reasons are by definition opaque. The republican party appears to be in the ‘oh sh*t what have i done’ stage of regret in their Faustian deal with Trump, and this story adds weight to the idea that trump is a loose cannon with no grip on reality. but it could just as easily play as an example to trump fans that voting trump continues to stick it to the GOP and big politics in general, and republican senators are so mad about it they would go to the press and try to smear him like this. Or any number of other reasons we can’t guess because the sourcing, and therefore the motives, are opaque.

one of the common themes of both the trump and the brexit phenomena has been liberal hubris, the idea that no-one sensible could possibly vote for these charlatans, and then the stunned silence broken only by the sound of dropped monocles when people do vote for these charlatans.

I’ll finish by invoking Marshall Macluhan and mentioning that the third world war is an information war, that it’s already going on, that it’s a free for all without clearly defined sides, let alone clearly defined heroes and villains, The torrent of bad information we currently see is a symptom of that information war, and it may well overwhelm us and provoke events to escalate rather quicker than we expected if we’re not very very careful

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post pictures because doesn’t have a relevant contribution or insight

/b/ack you go…

Dude, I love BB, the editors do a fine job of bringing fun, sometimes fascinating, sometimes wonderful things, occasionally informative things. But a history of “good quality information” is not their strong suit and it never has been, esp. when politics is involved. That’s such a ludicrous premise that a gif’s about all it’s worth in response.

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fair comment, i totally overbaked that bit, but there is a paucity of good information sources around and i find boing boing does at least perform better than most others with retractions, apologies, unaddressed aspects of stories and following up when the news circus moves on. so bb is still head and shoulders above most of the other shitshow news sites and image blogs out there

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careful or your cynicism will be the end of all of us! :wink:

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Seriously though, why would the DNC dismantle itself and its influence over theis party’s choice of candidate?

Because “WE”, the Democrats, want them to.

I don’t think there’s any possible way you can claim to be “we” the Democrats in any grand sense, since the party’s always been a big tent with a large diversity of demographics, viewpoints, and coalitions. That’s a big part of why they suck to the left-liberal members, since they’re not a left-liberal party, but a party that has some left-liberal, moderate, and conservative members with a diversity of interests and policies they support with watered down mediocrity. With the the fundamentally broken two party system, broken electoral systems in the US, and a broken Constitution that over-represents the influence of smaller conservative rural states in the Congress, the Dems are pretty much guaranteed to blow, though they’re uniquely skilled at alienating the left and taking them for granted. The only way it’ll get better is if the left-liberals increase in numbers and turn out more in elections, but there’s a bit of a catch-22 there, since they’re demotivated by the party sucking and don’t really have very effective PR.

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Plenty of the “left” is happy with the third way centrists, enough that the DLC favored aren’t going away anytime soon.

Dems don’t lock step as readily as the authoritarian right.

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I’m not so sure of that. In fact I think they are dangerously close to being squeezed out of the right end of the party. All the posturing going on now for Bernie go go Green party can easily flip the other way with the far left joining the Dem’s and pushing out the red Dems. After all why should we give up the powerful position of the 2nd party. Its ours. Fuck them in the center.

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“Literally anything within reasonable contextual boundaries around the topic at hand is possible.”

This has been your completely plausible charitable interpretation for Tuesday, the 12th of July.

Saying “superdelegates should remain superdelegates but vote for more liberal candidates because that’s obviously what the base wants” is not suggesting the DNC dismantle itself and its influence over their party’s choice of candidate. It’s a criticism of the party’s choice of candidate.