Donald Trump pitches tantrum at "peace meeting" with GOP senators

If that’s supposed to be Trump flipping the bird on that blog image, I think the digit is too long…

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You can’t accuse the Anti-Intellectual Party of not being methodical. They’ve put the equivalent of a '74 Winnebago, a gold-plated turkey leg and that porta-potty fire (linked above) in the ring and now it’s time to debate merits of each. Give them time. Jeez.

And that’s from someone who is being talked about as Trump’s running mate. Is there anyone he can’t alienate?

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Karma, a drink best sipped beside a dumpster fire.

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I am, i.e., that part of is that she is a woman. Obama may be a black man, but he is a man. Sexism is so deeply rooted that we don’t even recognize it. Consider: We elected a black man (approximately 12% of the population) before a woman (as of July 2014, 162 million women, 157 million men). We are the fucking majority.

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Well, it all depended on whether you saw the whole “Trump” persona as an act. The general belief seemed to be that it was, and to a fair degree. Turns out that isn’t the case, or if it is, it’s one he’s unable to turn off. Even Trump’s talk about how “presidential” (and boring) he would become as the campaign went on turned out to not be true.

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This is real stinker of a photograph.

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For what it’s worth, that was a pretty close primary. And both the woman and the black man were Democrats. (Palin? Well, the GOP still hasn’t put a woman (or a black man) at the top of the ticket, have they?) And I am not convinced that Clinton lost the 2008 primary because of sexism alone. I voted for Obama in the 2008 primary over Clinton for pretty much the same reasons I voted for Sanders over Clinton this time. And for what it’s worth, had Elizabeth Warren been running in either or both of those primaries, she would have gotten my vote over both Obama and Sanders.

But that’s just me, of course.

In 2008, that almost came down to a coin flip. And I bet Clinton would have done just as (or nearly as) well against McCain (and certainly against Romney) as Obama did. The GOP was severely weighed down by the baggage of the Bush 43 presidency.

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So it’s worse to be a woman than black in America? Is that really a calculation we can make meaningful? Women are at a distinct disadvantage in our society, undoubtedly, but white women are more likely to inherit power, wealth, and cultural capital than any black person who will always inherit blackness and its associated disadvantages in ways that women don’t necessarily have to worry about. Does this mean that black people have it worse than women in America? Again I ask, is that a calculation we can make meaningful? People contend with different disadvantages that line up in different ways that can’t be added or subtracted in numerically simple ways.

This is something I derisively refer to as Oppression Olympics. The contest for who’s got it worse is a one that no one ever wins and which fails to account for the realities of intersectionality. Saying it’s simply sexism and pitting that against institutionalized racism, something which Hillary herself has contributed to, is to create on oversimplified narrative. Especially when Trump gains much of his relative appeal from racism. Trying to create an apples to apples statistical comparison of Clinton versus Obama in purely racism versus sexism framing is not really something that will yield productive results. Is there sexism involved? Absolutely. Can that effect be compared in the way you’re attempting? I hope not. Because if that’s meaningful, then the whole concept of intersectional solidarity and its associated benefits might as well go right out the window.

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It may not be by a professional photographer. It looks more like a cameraphone shot by a staffer instead of a press-covered event.

“… go down in flames…” There’s a really bad joke with that as a punch line.
No, nothing to do with Drumpf.

I constantly have this debate with my aforementioned yellow dog Democrat husband, so please take anything I’m about to say with the same respect. I’m exhausted of having this debate with men. Literally EXHAUSTED. I’ve been having the same damn conversation, with some who are clearly erudite (such as yourself) and some who are assholes (not yourself) for two decades. Of course many white women benefit from the system more than other minorities. And, no, being a woman is not “worse” and nor did I say as much. And calling this the “Oppression Olympics” is reductive in the extreme. I’m not trying to compete because that is in no way productive. There is a simple truth here that people ignore: We’ve never had a woman president and we represent more than half the population. That means more than half the population has never seen a woman in such a position of power. That is what is meaningful.

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Sure enough: credit to Sean Spicer, Chief Strategist & Communications Director, Republican National Cmte.

So, a guy with a cell phone just showing that the GOP is meeting with Trump.

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I dunno. I’m not buying it. Obama in 2008 was a black man running against a white war veteran and closed at around the same lead Hillary currently has. A lot of the country was saying he was a secret Muslim (a lot still do.) [/quote]

Part of the problem - and the difference - is that some of the allegations about Clinton are somewhat true: she is a serial liar, for example, in a way that Obama was not a serial Kenyan or Muslim. Now, Trump is a liar too, and far far more egregious than Clinton, but that’s where the double standard steps in, Americans will tolerate behavior from a man that they wouldn’t tolerate from a woman. If a female president in the 90s had had sex with an intern, how long would she have lasted? Days?

I don’t think that significantly many voters are opposed to Clinton just because she’s a woman, but I think it is likely true that the reason Trump can get away with being a lying orange jackass all the time while Clinton can’t get away with even a few small missteps is because he’s a man and she’s a woman.

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Also sexism: The most thorough, profound and moving defense of Hillary Clinton I have ever seen.

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She has a higher truth rating than any other candidate in the 2016 race: http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2016/jan/26/presidential-scorecards-so-far/

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Nor do I. She did vote for the war in Iraq among other horrible ideas. I’ll go on record: By no means is she my candidate of choice. But her gender, it matters. And to suggest that we are all on a level playing field now where gender is irrelevent is naive.

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That count is about debate statements, and doesn’t include things like her assertion that Chelsea was at ground zero during 9-11. It also predates the FBI report on her email statements, many of which were found to be false. Even your chart shows she made 43 statements which were “mostly false” to “pants on fire,” which doesn’t exactly disprove my “serial liar” assertion. I will certainly grant you that other candidates who lie more get away with it more, as that was the point of my post.

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The Republicans should change their presidential primary voting rules. Give more votes to super delegates. It wouldn’t be popular but it would allow them to pre-select electable candidates.

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