Chelsea is still a Clinton…
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I don’t know- I live in something like the second whitest state in the country, so I honestly don’t know that many PoC.
Several of the black folks I do know are Bernie or Bust, though. Most of the rest are new enough to this country that they don’t vote. That’s about what I have to go on.
The flaggin’ calls the dragon
To the trolls that he chews
(the vessel with the pestle holds a brew just for you)
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Sorry, I had to correct: Satan, lesser fallen angel, Satan Jr., lesser fallen angel’s black cousin twice removed, a woman!!! (who may or may not be Satan’s mistress)
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Remember in 2008 when Romney was searching for those “missing white voters,” and running against the centrist Democrat, who the left was bitterly disappointed in, while being viscerally despised by the right? There are even fewer of those white voters now. Every recent election has had aggravated and disillusioned leftists pissed at the pragmatist centrist Dem. Every election has had foaming at the mouth right wingers identifying the Dem. as Satan incarnate. In this one, the third party Libertarian candidate drawing voters from the right is polling far stronger than the Green drawing voters from the left. Trump has to win in swing states without any signs of having the ground game, campaign staff, or money to be able to do that. He might pull it off, but nothing makes it look at all likely to me. I mostly know bitter disillusioned leftists, to whom Clinton is a toxic, lying, Republican-lite, establishment candidate they don’t want to vote for. I may not vote for her (I live in TX where my pres. vote is not counted.) But we far left liberals are a surprisingly small demographic in elections, and only make a difference in the kinds of very close races this isn’t shaping up to be.
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But never out gunned, unfortunately.
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Trump is trying really really really hard to make Hillary look like she might be an acceptable choice, and despite his very best efforts it is barely working.
When forced to choose between:
- A puppet of established big money whose hands are so far up her ass you can see their fingers move when she talks.
~or~ - An evil orange racist clown who is conning his donors and siphoning off the money from his campaign.
I can see why people are referring to this election as a dumpster fire, and why neither one of them are “crushing it”…many of us don’t want either.
I want Trump LESS for sure, but not enough to pummel my conscience into enough submission to vote for Hillary. I’m choosing to vote for a third party unless things seem like they will be awfully damn close, then i’ll vote for hillary and drink a bit and weep for our country.
Seriously, in a country with 324million people, these two ass hats are our choices? bleck.
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Um yeah.
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I don’t know about quitting, but can there be any doubt that Trump would completely lose his shit within weeks of having to actually serve as President?
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[quote=“Romberry, post:113, topic:81156, full:true”]
If you could transport the HRC of today back to the 80’s and 90’s, she’d be on many issues a fringe Republican. [/quote]
It’s not clear how meaningful that is. If you could transport a centrist Republican from the 80s to today’s GOP, they’d never win a primary.
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Straight up. I’m a registered Green, and voted for Stein last time, and will again (She’s polling at 7% btw), but, if she were not on the ballot, I would still support the libertarians over Clinton or Trump.
I’m really weary of hearing about the Great Oracle Nate Silver during elections. Probability is great but never underestimate the ability of humans to strike off into a batshit crazy tangent. It’s our specialty.
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I voted Browne, got Bush. I sure showed Gore/Lieberman!!!
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I mean, would you (not you specifically) expect to receive GOOD candidates when the stakes are this high and the laws create this scenario? Their expectations are too high when money is speech and democracy.
Yep.
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The majority of primary voters determined to pick her as well
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…and that’s when I wordlessly whip out my smartphone
my daughter hates her
I fail to see how this is relevant. Lots of very smart women dislike her for many good reasons. I’m not interviewing her to be my new BFF either. Should she be president simply because she’s a woman? No. By that reasoning, I’d accept Sarah Palin. (Sorry, just threw up in my mouth a little while typing that sentence.) What I’m suggesting is that some of the hatred of her is due to entrenched misogyny. I’m also suggesting that it’s long overdue that we have a female president and she’s unfortunately the most likely at this point who doesn’t make me throw up in my mouth. Would I prefer Elizabeth Warren? Hell, yes. Anyway, I remember reading an interview with Whoopi Goldberg where she discussed the profound impact of seeing Uhura in “Star Trek.” Seeing people that look like us in positions of power or success matters.
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Sounds good. See you at the two minutes hate.
