Ahh, yes; here’s another bunch of “educators” and school workers who should all be out of jobs, as should one more idiot ‘officer of the law’.
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So what has this child and his peers learned from this incident?
- Adults and authority figures are the enemy and totally unreasonable (as if they didn’t know that already).
- Just because you may be entitled to something anyone in authority can take it away from you on a whim.
- Even non-transgressions can result in life long repercussions (so why worry about what the consequences are, some random authority can screw you over at anytime for anything).
- If somebody in authority accuses you of something, don’t expect anyone to stand up for you. (except your mother, mothers are awesome)
- If someone thinks you are guilty of something, any response you make will likely reinforce their expectation of guilt. So prepared to be screwed no matter what.
- The milk you didn’t care to drink in the first place is not worth this shit.
Important life lessons. Certainly preparing the kids for the real world.
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This.
Authorities mindlessly asserting their authority over youth (especially in education settings) for reasons as “rules are the rules” or “respect my authoritay” serve mostly to impart the lessons that it doesn’t matter if you play by the rules or not, they own your ass either way.
The practical take away is that the risk for following the rules or trying to get around them are same. The perceived potential reward for breaking the rules/law is much higher. Its a simple calculation that happens subconsciously.
If the risks are the same, go for the highest reward… and people wonder why the down-trodden are always in trouble.
Zero tolerance makes criminals of every day behaviour, and sets the stage for actual criminal behaviour down the road…
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This is why I was suggesting some alternate name should be found. I’m not objecting so much to the posters participation in a discussion as someone who may have some connection to the situation, but rather to going out and joining forums specifically to do so. Admittedly, I might not notice so much if the poster was in agreement with the story as presented, but to me this is somewhat related to those that threaten a business with a boycott over some policy when they’re not really customers of that business in the first place - it just feels too disingenuous to me. By the time you add in the declaration that the student should simply submit to authority, I’m more than ready to call “trolley” … or at least some other, more accurate, term.
(I’m open to suggestions on this - something that flings excrement around, perhaps? I personally would prefer to stick with mythological references, (e.g., ‘trolley’), but the only feces-flinging creatures that come to mind are real-world animals.)
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There are an awful lot of problems in the world. A child drinking milk is where you’re putting your attention.
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This, exactly.
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I’ve never told my children anything about how behave when confronted by a police officer. But I live in Norway where people still, on the whole, just trust each other.
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Why wouldn’t they do that? Not following why this is considered bad. They were physically there, they may have additional insight to add.
It’d be like complaining “we blogged about Mythbusters and someone who works on the show signed up just to comment on our blog entry! What a jerk!” so… uh… I don’t understand this complaint?
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Your points are fair, but is a 65¢ milk worth ruining someone’s life? Whatever happened to responses like “Hey Ryan, I need to see your lunch card.” or “Hey Ryan, you already got your milk, put that one back or you have to pay for it.” or even “If you don’t go through the line like you’re supposed to, we’ll have to give you detention or call your parents.”? Have we completely lost memory of how civilized societies raise children? What was so bad about caring and guidance?
On the other hand, authority needs some advice about submitting to the rules, morals, and values of the society that grants it its power. When authority is wrong, it is right for people to resist.
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In a truly democratic society, authority is based on trust: no such thing as an untrustworthy authority can exist, it’s an absurdity. Any authority that isn’t based on trust is inherently tyrannical.
Or maybe I’m defining Anarchy, here, instead of Democracy. I’m not sure.
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I see no racism in this story. It is either an incomplete story or you are indeed racist and bigoted for assuming that the police are racist and bigoted.
Take a look at Mindysan’s comment immediately below the one I’m replying to. That’s what’s wrong with this particular alleged witness/n00b.
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Let me guess – Blue Lives Matter?
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Yeah. Ain’t that a shame?
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The way to prove your assumption is to find stories from this school or one reasonably similar/close in which the student who went back to grab a milk was white.
What happened to those students?
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When I read this, it immediately makes me think of the Smurfs…
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My dad taught me that too, by being an authoritarian. 
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