Probably because you’re not making “points” to begin with. No wonder the rest of us are so confused by your attempts to communicate them.
People are assuming these things about you because you’re going through unnecessary contortions to defend the Duggars for no apparent reason, it’s not surprising that people are assuming that you share their beliefs. If you actually attempted to understand why people are disgusted by them and their attempts to push their ideology on others, I doubt you’d bother pushing back so hard.
japhroaig: so sorry about the coffee. I don’t know how you’re coping. Yeah, for me the overall experience of commenting on this BB post is turning more into me saying the same things over and over and defending myself against irrelevant (and knee-jerky) attack. Your word-count insight is the most reasonably thought-out response yet in support of BB’s assertion. I don’t dispute it! (Bingo!) [insert smiley, only without that open-mouthed idiot look of the emoticon)
Perhaps so, but I and other more eloquent posters have been addressing the points you made. That there is no shaming happening on this page; that it is unfair for us to criticize the Duggar family for their beliefs about what women should be doing. Those seem very clear, and if they were things you meant you can’t claim we missed them; we are just saying they are wrong. It’s annoying to see you skip past all the points as to why.
I am getting a little weary of the attacks as well. It doesn’t make for any kind of real discussion. I have been contemplating a temp self ban.
To your point though, I do believe I reached my conclusions through rational conversations and 37 years of observing this messy world. I don’t claim truth or superiority, simply that I have opinions (hopefully supported by facts) that may disagree with others (which also may be supported by fact).
chenille: I’m sorry; I don’t know how to respond to your last comment (starting “Perhaps so, but I…”) because I don’t really understand it. I’m not even sure where to begin.
Ok, now I’m pretty sure you’re just trolling, or being INSANELY pedantic, since the screenshot in the OP is blatantly looking down upon a woman who “wear[s] clothing that accents her body instead of bringing attention to her countenace”. They didn’t use the word “sluttily”, but you have to be wilfully obtuse to not see that this is the meaning behind those words.
Yes. Sorry we’re bashing child molesters and those who cover up child molestion, and blame the victims. Really. Let’s give the benefit of the doubt that their anti-woman, anti-gay, anti-trans world view isn’t nearly as henious as it seems… after all, they have GOOD intentions, right? They just want to save our immortal souls, so they really are GOOD people you see, and I guess we’ll all just back down now, because you’re totes correct…
No, I’m not trolling. This is too exhausting to be doing for fun. I just object to the fabrication of evidence supporting your argument. My original point was that the excerpt/book chapter doesn’t merit Boing Boing’s claim that it “shames” “sluts.” The strongest “evidence” I’m seeing in this thread is from people referring to actual instances of slut-shaming (not from the excerpt/book chapter), their own beliefs about women/men/modesty, etc., personal attacks and insults, and so forth. Can anybody actually use the article to prove the point that it shames sluts? And just the article? This is not a rhetorical question.
They didn’t use the word “sluttily”, but you have to be wilfully obtuse to not see that this is the meaning behind those words.
Here’s how I interpret the logic:
A HYPOTHETICAL article is entitled, “Israel is a Jewish state.”
Boing Boing reacts by posting the article (which is about the history of Israel) and adding the comment: “Guy says Jews should all go back to Israel!”
I say, “What? That’s not what guy said. Where does the article say that?”
And you go, “You’re an idiot! Plenty of people hate Jewish people! Look at the Diaspora! What about the Holocaust?? You’re an anti-Semite!! You’re willfully obtuse not to see the implication!!”
To sum: The issue of Jewishness isn’t the issue in the above example. The lack of evidence supporting the claim is.
Why exactly do you think I need a definition of “slut-shaming”? How have I led you to believe I don’t know what that is? Have you not read my posts in this thread?
