Elections 2023 and 2024 (Part 1)

i’d be curious, how strongly did everyone already feel about bolsonaro before the attempt?

here, it’s not like ■■■■■ getting shot is going to make anyone like him more. this is still a man who wants to round up and deport all immigrants with brown skin, and who tried to overthrow the results of the last election. ( among many other horrors )

i can see people who already like him becoming more energized – unfortunately, violent so – where maybe previous to this some of that had been tailing off. but, i can’t see this winning him any new supporters. he’s still ■■■■■ after all.

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That’s a fact. This won him no new supporters, but it will fanaticize some who already are dangerous. This just got very scary.

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Yep. Waiting for someone to respond in kind. I fear we wont be waiting for long.

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I anticipate little more than a sympathy bump in any polling. I don’t see any possible situation where someone would vote for him over Biden because of this.

I definitely see retaliation and Republicans are doing nothing right now to try to lower the temperature. If anything they are actively making things worse.

Scott Jennings was on CNN a little bit ago blaming Biden and the leftist boogeyman for rightly calling Trump an existential threat and a dictator in waiting. Funnily enough he hasn’t been seen since that rant. (Hopefully I never see him on my TV again.) Then you have several outspoken R’s blaming a grab bag of media, Biden, and the “radical left” for all of this.

I really shudder to think of what will happen at the RNC in a couple of days. I don’t expect any sort of measured response to any of this — if anything I expect it to be outrageous and dangerous.

ETA Oh, FFS. Scott Jennings is back on CNN again. So much for my wish that he never returns to stink up the place.

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Stewart voices my thoughts exactly…

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I see more than a bump as possible. This event could inflame anew some Republicans who had become disillusioned with Tromp. I think some who saw him as a loser (and/or a rapist, felon, etc.) who they no longer wanted to bother with voting for will now get excited by his new martyrdom, and his fist-shaking, tough guy pose.

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I’m sure those people were going to vote for him anyway because “Biden so old”.

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I wasn’t talking about those who were already going to vote. A lot of people don’t bother to vote when they get disillusioned with their side’s candidate (and don’t like the other side’s either).

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Yeah, I knew what you meant. I just wasn’t particularly articulate in my response and I apologize for that.

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BBC is reporting a barn roof about 130m from the dais.

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When Teddy Roosevelt got shot in the side during his campaign he didn’t hit the floor like a sack of soggy potatoes.

He stopped the crowd and the Pinkertons from killing the guy - then finished his hour long speech. Then went to the hospital.

Let’s not let them turn this into a strong, defiant Trump raising his fist. He wasn’t a Teddy Roosevelt.

He was just an average scared guy.

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And now, more wtf elections news.

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My tv just said there’s almost no social media presence for the shooter. Odd for a 20 year old.

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I was wondering why nobody was posting his profile pics, etc.

Is it possible he deleted his accounts as part of getting his affairs in order? I mean, of course it’s possible. But would that have actually erased his presence?

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He might not be an average person. And his motivations might have been driven by things other than politics. Impossible to know at this point.

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There are elsewhere online. White. Thin. Long light straight hair. Demolition Ranch T-shirt (supposedly a “nice” gun nut porn channel).

Tried and failed to find something about his discord as I saw mention of that too.

I assume the news will come out slowly so as to protect the living from further violence.

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FBI identifies Suspected Shooter as Thomas Crooks. PA Records Show He Was a Registered Republican.

The FBI has identified the shooting suspect at the rally of Don the convicted as Thomas Mathew Crooks age 20.

Two things stand out. The identity of the shooter will make it a lot harder for the MAGA Republicans to use their usual racist dog whistles. He was a “Real American”.

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But he got brainwashed by Biden, he donated 15 bucks to the democrats, that cancels out the republican part.

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And also, Dems caused it because some of them have mildly pointed out that Tromp might be kinda sorta a threat to democracy when you stop and think about it, so that violent, actually fascist rhetoric is what led this sad young man to commit such a horrific, Democrat-obeying act. You see.

:weary:

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