Wow, which airline are you flying?
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In order of flight frequency:
Southwest
Hawaiian
Alaska
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you forgot throat…
then make them ride on the wing for the rest of the journey…
for travel by ship… they can walk the plank
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Yup, Note United isn’t on the list. That may make a big difference.
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I have watched hundreds of candid fight videos and I never see anyone going for the groin. Yet every time I hear of self defense techniques the groin is in the first breath.
This contradiction torments me to no end. The closest I can figure is that self defense training really does keep people out of fights. But that seems too simple.
Seems more likely that going for the groin is such a wild card that even no-self-control born fighters don’t want to open that can.
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I wonder how easy it is to do the knee-to-nuts maneuver in an airplane aisle while wearing a skirt?
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Prior to the pandemic, I flew a lot. I’m not sure I share your sentiment or observation about a “cop-like, violence oriented attitude” to their jobs. I’ve seen attendants bark at people for being dumb or unruly, but i’ve never, and i do mean never seen a flight attendant be anything other than extremely professional to people who are being reasonable, or even mildly unreasonable.
Some people just have a problem with authority, even when that authority is in service of their safety and the safety of others.
And if those people get punched? Well, maybe they can complain about it to the other passengers on the train, where the rest of us don’t have to listen to them.
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hmm. me thinks that if one has a fairly consistent experience of airline staff being rude to oneself, there is only one common variable amongst all those flights…
…and it’s not the staff.
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This is how you do it:
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I just think groinshots don’t make it to the top of r/Fightporn or r/PublicFreakout
It’s not red meat.
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Is your airline of choice ConAir?
This is so far from anything that I have ever experienced on a plane.
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Since my last post, I spent an hour researching groin kicks with google, and there is some good info in this quora thread:
Basically the concerns with groin kicks fall into these categories:
- It’s hard to do (small area) and easy to defend against.
- It is potentially lethal and can cause long term damage.
- Therefore it would tend to escalate the fight
- Not honorable in dominance fight
- Other targets are more disabling and easier (e.g. eyes, knees, rip ear)
Consensus seems to be that groin kicks are not the first thing to focus on, but are a useful tool for certain situations:
- you are close enough to knee the groin
- you are sure you want this to be a lethal fight
- you have the advantage of surprise
- the opponent is untrained at fighting
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I don’t like this one. We shouldn’t be purposefully blowing a breath of air into the cabin. A dart gun or one of those mine crossbows would work well.
I have to fly regularly for work (still) and flight attendants no longer have any sense of humor about mask requirements - as they shouldn’t. I still don’t understand why the following haven’t been implemented:
- Vax requirements to fly (unless you are a child under 12 or flying for a medical emergency). (Note: I used to include “unable to be vaxxed adults” here but I think that is too open to being gamed.)
- Lifetime ban on ALL airlines for refusing to wear a mask on ANY airline. So you can’t just switch between carriers.
Re 1, this is already true on some international flights and I assume will be a full International requirement very soon.
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Maybe a cocktail of tranc and vaccine? 
It’s been a long time since I flew on United.
I THINK it was way back in the early aughts when my wife and I went to Hawaii one time. They did the whole “figure out the halfway time” in hours and minutes by announcing the air speed, distance and headwind in differing numbers (knots, land speed, etc) so you had to do extra calculations. In the olden days, if you got it right, you got a bottle of champagne. By then, you just got a book about Hawaii or something.
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I took a self-defense class in college, and they focused on these points when discussing groin attacks:
Basically, the most vulnerable areas of the body have more protection, so it’s harder to get a good, disabling hit on them, especially the groin. The teacher emphasized fighting back just enough to get away from an attacker. We learned how to slip out of holds where possible, and simple attacks to more vulnerable areas (feet, knees, etc.)
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