Such a dreamer!!
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Ewww.
Having said that, Iâm sure Rule 34 applies.
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Iâd wager dressed is the only way Cromwell boned.
Wait? How the hell did we get this far off topic?
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Oh, Iâm good. I managed to get from Hirohitoâs surrender to a discussion on the merits of langoustines the other day. Topical, schmopical 
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An entirely different meaning of Roundhead.
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With all the awesome.
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Does it bother anyone else that the people involved have emphasized that this took place in âbroad daylightâ or that even the civil advocates say things like âfolks ⌠are being hurt in this manner openlyâ?
Doesnât this indicate a mindset that accepts things like this will happen at night or in secret? Doesnât it seem to set an expectation on police behavior thatâs entirely unacceptable?
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I would say that people are shocked that the police feel they can do these things openly, without needing to hide their crimes under the cover of darkness. It doesnât mean that the crimes are ok in the dark, it just means that it is upsetting that the perpetrators are brazen enough to not care to hide them. What is most troubling is of course that far too often they can commit these sorts of abuses openly and plainly and still get away with them.
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um, I know that this is the internet, but some kinks are best kept to oneselfâŚ
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âone officer explaining that he enlarged photos of his own kids to use as targetsâ
holy. shit.
Def: Police Academy: A procedure involving the removal of all empathy and humanity.
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I love Key & Peele. But anyway:
So youâre saying that dressing and acting like a member of a less privileged economic class actually does have something to do with how a person is treated? That canât be; I was assured in this very thread that only skin color matters.
No tasers for this white rapper dude, his skin color will protect him, hoodie or no hoodie!
I donât think he meant killing to defend property, but killing to defend your life. The point was that your own home should be a place to draw the line at the obligation to retreat.
I thoroughly agree. If someone breaks into my house (especially as violently as no-knock invasions are), I should be under no obligation to guess at what the intruderâs intentions are.
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?? Someone told you something absolutist & you bought it?
But one of these things is -not- like the other.
All else being equal, black people would still be disproportionately stopped by police, searched by police, arrested by police, harassed, beaten, etc by police as it stands.
As for your Oklahoman neckbeard friend, even with his jobstoppers & firearms, yes, he is better off in an encounter with police.
Lose the guns from the scenario and let a âyessirâ pass through his lips and he would be far more likely to walk away from an encounter with police than many a black person no matter how acquiescent.
In essence, yes, police will treat a âBTLâ poorly, but the thing is, many police, such that you can call it the system, consider all black people âBTLâ until proven otherwise, and sometimes even then.
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Watch it, Mr. 44 has six little friends!
@funkdaddy, I not only didnât buy it, I mocked it. And if you substitute âpoorâ for âblackâ in your statement, itâs still true, eh? Nearly any cop in the USA will go after a poor white homeless man before heâll go after a rich black businessman, because the cops prey on the disempowered (if thatâs even a word). Itâs what bullies do, regardless of how racist they are. Fixing the problem is not a matter of changing peopleâs color or perception of color, the best route to a solution is directly empowering those who are oppressed, through education and job opportunities.
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I think your solution is what Iâd expect having read some of your previous posts in the past, but I donât like to discount ambiguities. (I also didnât bother to scroll up to whoever was spouting nonsense)
Yes, empowerment is the answer, much bigotry & oppression is a symptom, symptoms can be extremely useful as gauges & in this instance the focus on a solution should not lend itself to equivocating arguments away from the symptom for the serious nature of the symptom. In many illnesses symptoms can be ignored to the betterment of the patient, but serious symptoms ought not be.
Thereâs no reason for it after all, thereâs enough of us to properly focus on both. Just like one part of the political sphere furthers the oppression that is the illness, with the result of what should be an immunological response attacking the host instead of protecting it. The other side of the argument believes in a division of labour, behooves us to do the same where we can.
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If there is nowhere to retreat in your house, where do you go if there the house is on fire? Unless you live caged by burglar bars (in which case the fire department and your landlord should be contacted), there is always a way to retreat. In that instant with an attacker in your space and you running out the back door I guarantee you will be safer than if you run towards your attacker with a deadly weapon.
I do think I agree with that; it might even be what I was driving at; but itâs been a long day. I mought think onât further.
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Iâm starting to understand the thinking of the Police now; âShoot firstâŚâ
