Florida GOP candidate Lavern Spicer: "There are no pronouns in the Constitution."

Technically, “We the people…” is the preamble to the constitution, but yes, there are many pronouns in the actual articles and amendments as well.

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I wonder… what do these people think that pronouns are? I mean they’re an extremely commonly used part of many languages (including English), which people use constantly, and in fact the person claiming they don’t use pronouns/pronouns aren’t in X are probably using pronouns while telling someone they don’t exist.

So do they just mentally conflate, “people suggesting what pronouns others should use when referring to them” with “the part of speech”?

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Because that’s what’s really important here…

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The preamble is part of the constitution, just as the introduction to a book is part of the book.

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Tangentially related: at some point maybe a decade or so ago, I recall that the Lutheran liturgy and “official” translation of the Bible were changed to remove any gendering of God or the Holy Spirit. So instead of “God, in His wisdom,” it became “God, in God’s wisdom.” I believe this was done explicitly to not make church or the Bible a continued source of pain for those whose experiences with male authority figures were profoundly negative.

So yeah, Christianity doesn’t have to be as inflexible and shitty as the loudest “Christians” insist it does.

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You phrased that like it was a technical correction, but all you’re saying is that chgoliz was correct, the first word is in the constitution is “we”. :face_with_raised_eyebrow:

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The preamble is part of legal documents and they are cited in deciding the extent and applicability of regs.

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Technically it was @anon67050589 that was addressed; but I guess it doesn’t really matter, as long a man can still ‘correct’ a woman, any woman…

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The very first word of the Constitution is a pronoun: “We,” as in, “We, the people of the United States…”

Oops! I’m sorry. I somehow read the thread backwards? I will fix it. :flushed:

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You don’t need to be; I was being snarky and piggybacking off your comment to point out the fact that some dudes in this very thread KEEP doing this irksome shit, despite being informed that it’s not cool.

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It’s LITERALLY the second post here, dude. Almost word for word what you wrote.

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Not a bad move! I would have personally gone with “they” as in “God,in Their wisdom”, but that’s just stylistic nitpicking. :slight_smile:

Thankfully true!

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Imagine the social stigma of being an unmarried 30 year old Jewish man. The shame on his mother!

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It’s just another race-traitor fame-monger the GOP dredged up. Most of us don’t see them as representing anything except sell-out stupidity

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In addition to what many others have said in this thread regarding the preamble, since Lavern Spicer is running for a seat in the House of Representatives let us look at the relevant section of the Constitution. Article I, Section 2, paragraph 2:

No Person shall be a Representative who shall not have attained to the Age of twenty five Years, and been seven Years a Citizen of the United States, and who shall not, when elected, be an Inhabitant of that State in which he shall be chosen.

No, this is not an artifact of the transcript. The high-resolution image clearly shows that this paragraph uses the relative pronoun who twice and the singular, masculine, third-person pronoun he once.

If we wanted to be assholes, we could challenge Lavern Spicer to prove that the pronoun he (as used in that paragraph) applies to Lavern Spicer.

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Yep, a dude who hung around exclusively with a dozen other dudes for years definitely never fucked.

Edit: I realized that this might come off as me snarking at you, which was not my intent, sorry.

Bold of you to assume Trump wouldn’t insist on sitting in the seat of power or storm off in a huff when denied.

Also, no surprise, a shill for Putin.