Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis proud that he sent two planes of migrants to Martha's Vineyard

Hopefully it costs DeSantis some more money. I live in Massachusetts and I hope Governor Baker sends DeSantis the bill for taking care of the people he trafficked to Martha’s Vineyard.

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The answers are, of course:

  • They shit on refugees from Venezuela because they’re hypocrits.
  • They don’t care about whether the refugees are actually legal because they’re xenophobes and hypocrits.
  • It was exactly like luring a child into a van, because it’s all projection.
  • They don’t care how much it costs the taxpayers because they’re all about using taxes to entrench power: using it to help people, even (especially?) the people who paid is, it socialism or something. Or: yes, these people do consider “owning the libs” worth the cost.
  • It’s Christofascist. Whether that counts as “Christian” or not depends on who you ask. See the discussion at Christianity continues decline in America
  • It’s not supposed to deter migrants at all. (Although the idea that this set up a whole host of impossible-to-meet conditions and set every one of them up to fail and be deported with prejudice was certainly not a coincidence.) “Owning the libs” was the point. All of the money and effort and state and federal laws broken were for some embarrassing footage of “libs” being racists, which they didn’t get, because they weren’t racist. That this was a possible outcome wasn’t considered, because de Santis and his ilk don’t have the capacity to comprehend that someone else might not act like he would.
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your list is really good.

on this one thing i possibly disagree.

de santis wants to stoke violence against immigrants. that anger he’s generating, that self satisfaction which says they’re allowed to do that to people… it directly meshes with “replacement” rhetoric. and it’s far more powerful than a vote, or anything like that.

it’s all about undermining the rule of law and democracy, so that his way - and those like him - is the only way. not “owning the libs” per se but making liberal democracy irrelevant entirely

also, some small possibility it was meant to help get ■■■■■ out of the headlines. you can’t have people reflecting that maybe ■■■■■-ism was bad. you’ve got to stop people thinking entirely

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“No tail number”?!

The speaker is a lawyer trying to get details on the topic of this bbs thread here.

ETA:

ETA2:

Oh.

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It’s equally about that. DeSantis and Abbott are making a big deal about choosing landing spots for the hated brown-skinned immigrants where the supposed “librul elites” live. Trying to punish them is at the rotten core of all right-wing populist ideologies.

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I hope they get him for something, and that whoever falsified their addresses are fired and prosecuted, but I worry about hinging everything on the definition of “inveiglement,” because it seems the people of MA are doing everything they can to provide support. So if the migrants do end up getting those support services promised in the brochure, would the case fall apart?

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If I promise to give you a pony, but I have neither the intention nor the ability to give you a pony, then someone else sees your disappointed face and gives you their pony, that doesn’t mean I didn’t commit fraud on you.

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IANAL, but I think “fraud” might be a different thing. I’m just saying I could see lawyers arguing for the defense, “this case rests on false promises, but in fact, these asylum seekers received all the services promised, as we knew they would if we sent them north,” or some such. In case it’s not clear from my comment and my posting history, I think that’s bullshit. But I wouldn’t put it past them, and my faith in our legal system is sketchy right now.

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