The only thing I ever have to say about any of this is that, if I ever meet an alien, or discover incontrovertible proof of alien presence, I want to know how they broke the light barrier. Because if you can’t do that, you’re pretty much stuck in your own solar system.
Every few years another nut job who happens to have a deep CV comes out of the woodwork to tell us all he knows things.
I honestly wish everyone would just stop talking about it. If aliens visit us, everyone will know immediately. Even if we didn’t somehow all see it, hear it, and record it with our zillion 4K cellphones, the most significant event in the history of the planet could not be kept secret. Impossible.
Until then, I wish we could all shut the fuck up about it and get back to talking about climate change which is actually going to kill us all pretty fucking soon.
No one said anything about aliens, just “non-human origins.”
I’m going with octopodes because they’re too smart for our good and because I liked that book by Adrian Tchaicovsky. Could also be clams though, or quahogs. Those guys are suspiciously quiet and whenever you look they pretend they’re not doing anything.
I just see someone teeing up a retirement grift on the UFO ‘conference’ circuit. Saying ‘I’ve seen evidence’ is no good if you can’t produce the evidence for others to scrutinise
unique atomic arrangements
So do I. So does everyone. My coffee cup is a unique atomic arrangement.
Yeesh, what nonsense
Well…I think the nearest exoplanet is about 4 light years from us. Let’s say some super advanced technological intelligent life lives there and has ships capable at traveling 1/10th the speed of light. That’s still insanely fast, but not theoretically impossible fast. They could get here in 40 years. If they’re long lived or have mastered stasis, then it’s not beyond the realm of possibility. Extremely unlikely, yes, but not impossible. The really unlikely part, though, is a super technologically advanced intelligent life residing on that planet. We almost certainly would be able to detect evidence of that already if it were there. But let’s say all of that, as unlikely as it all is, is true. The thing that is orders of magnitude less likely is that all of the people who know about this have successfully kept it secret for, what, 50, 60, 70 years? Please. I would have a better chance of getting hit by lightning at the exact same time every day for the next week.
I’d love to believe it’s true (the world could stand to be even weirder), but I just don’t buy it. For one, the idea that anyone could meaningfully “reverse engineer” a non-human craft doesn’t hold water. I know it’s a staple of science fiction stories - developing new technologies from examining future/alien tech - but it isn’t plausible. A century back they had quantum physics, an electrical grid, etc. but if you showed someone an iPhone in the 1920s, they’d be able to understand basic principles but that would probably be it. (To actually replicate it, you still have to develop the entire supply chain that gave rise to the phone, which the phone itself doesn’t help with. At best you end up with an iPhone a few years earlier than it otherwise would have appeared.) Any further back then that, it’d be magic (in the later 19th century you’d probably get someone who realized electricity was involved… somehow). Non-human craft would necessarily be less comprehensible than an iPhone in the 19th century.
And you don’t even need deliberate misinformation - I knew someone whose father was in the Air Force and insisted that there was alien tech on the base where he worked. Assuming he was serious (a big if), he didn’t have the clearance to actually know that. I could easily see urban myths springing up in the military around top-secret aircraft tech, as it would inevitably be handled (especially if it crashed) by a lot of people who similarly lacked clearance to be told what it was. Although we do know that the Pentagon made use of “UFO” disinformation aimed at the public to hide their experimental aircraft, so…
I though the same, especially after he promised to reveal the “truth” about extra terrestrials, but then I realized Trump is also very easily distracted and manipulated, highly stupid and also pathologically incurious. So odds are good that he never followed up on his promise to investigate, or even if he did, that he didn’t understand what he was told and lost interest.
Or, you know, any evidence.
I think it’s because they’re finally acknowledging that, within our current understanding of physics, “some little green men zipped over here from another solar system” as an explanation for the origin a craft ranks down there with “time-traveling dinosaurs,” “travelers from another reality” and “elves done it.”
No, no, no - you see, aliens are traversing interstellar distances in crafts that only get seen by folks in the sticks (because although the aliens are hiding, the craft have a lot of superfluous lights, as the aliens are very… festive?), and survive the rigors of traveling at a substantial fraction of the speed of light only to crash because, I dunno, weather or something, but the aliens like to hang out over federal lands, so the government is always there to scoop them up before anyone else gets to see them. Also there’s some sort of conspiracy.
Time travelling dinosaurs are completely plausible. I know for a fact the dinosaurs were wiped out by a nuclear war in one of my playthroughs of SimEarth
My armchair, three bourbons into the evening theory is really, “What do you think all those $900 hammers were buying?” This stuff. Deeply off the books dark programs where most of the people that get read into the program can’t be trusted with the real information, so they get told it’s hush-hush aliens stuff.
i think you owe me a coke. preferably with some whiskey
well, the other “open for interpretation” possibility is you find a (possibly ancient) craft. aliens don’t need to be present for that either
( then, of course, you reconstruct it and take it for it’s maiden voyage which reveals your presence to the alien race, and the only thing that can save you is jpop and the concept of love )
I feel like the odds of this being a misinformation campaign are still way higher than it being factual. I find it yet more likely that something is being misinterpreted somewhere probably intentionally by some folks and unintentionally by others.
I love how open-ended “non-human intelligence” is. On the one hand, AI is all the rage these days. Let’s see what AI has for us!
There we go, I can believe that’d crash in the desert.
However, I prefer to believe it’s this:
Minmei will save us!
Thank you. I had a nagging feeling that wasn’t an original thought of mine but I couldn’t place it!
The closest star with a possibly habitable world is 31 light years away. It’s simply against the laws of physics for aliens to visit Earth. This is clearly just some multiverse shenanigans.
Oop, right you are. Cheers!