Who, me?
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I am somewhat surprised and I believe you. Also, that irony is rich.
Iâve only been on base a handful of times, all as a civilian. I do distinctly recall more guys walking around with guns than Iâd ever seen anywhere else, at least until we put armed soldiers in airports after 9/11⌠Maybe that was just gate guards and MPs, but, well, it felt pretty armed.
Either way, the element of surprise/planning is huge, regardless of the scenario.
Also, this:
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Just, FYI folks:
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Sure enough, a âgood-guy-with-a-gunâ could have been in the room and it still might have gone bad. Itâs not some kind of talisman that wards off all the bad things.
Well thatâs nauseating.
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It would require an act of the state legislature to remove it. It cannot be physically lowered to half-height.
Yesterday I was suggesting someone with a truck and chain should just tear it down and we can crowdfund their bail on vandalism charges. I read a better suggestion, a drone (or drones) carrying paint or fuel and a lighter. Iâm shocked itâs still up today. I really hoped a vigilante would have taken care of this overnight.
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Did anyone else stop to ask when this video was recorded? Anyone?
I donât see a time/date stamp, but the first thing said to the preacher is âWhat are your thoughts this morning?â I take that to mean that this was recorded on Thursday morning, well before the details of the shooting were known. Iâm not a Fox News defender, but I think that the network assumed that the shooting was religion-based because it occurred in a church. All of you saying âIt was obviously racism - the shooter even admitted it!â are using information we know now to judge a statement likely made before the evidence was clear.
Seriously, donât judge something just because it fits an anti-religion narrative. That makes you appear just as ignorant as the very people you are criticizing.
(And I mean all that in a constructive-criticism way, not a mean way, to be clear.)
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Do you mean Itâs not on a typical flagpole that you can raise and lower (in other words, they raised the pole with the flag already on it? Or you just canât legally raise and lower it? Because if itâs just the latter, thatâs utterly fucked up, and fuck the law, as you suggest. Anyone with an ounce of decency in the second case would want to keep it up.
Most people who want that shit down are probably far more concerned with doing the right thing, the right way. I say Iâm all for the drone solution, but the people in SC who want to bring it down arenât likely to do something illegal to get it down.
But if the legislature doubles down on this, fuck them, bunch of assholes.
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Why isnât flying the confederate flag considered treason?
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Ah, found it:
"A further obstacle to critics of the Confederate flag: Itâs affixed to the pole, and canât come down unless someone gets up there and pulls it down â which would be illegal anyway. âThe flag is part of a Confederate War Memorial, and is not on a pulley system, so it cannot be lowered, only removed,â
Thereâs plenty more of interesting info in here:
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Physically impossible, apparently - no pulley.
Flying the Nazi flag isnât considered treason either. Itâs just the sort of shit that would make everyone around you angry at you.
The two are not actually equivalent. Notably, the confederate battle flag was used by American citizens who were trying to secede from the union.
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Every time I hear the âgood guy with a gunâ argument, I immediately imagine a bunch of so-called âgood guys with gunsâ shooting each other in confusion because they think anyone else with a gun during a possible shooting must be a âbad guy with a gun.â
Reality isnât like an FPS. The bad guys arenât marked in red on your reticle. Heck, sometimes the bad guys with guns are wearing the uniforms of supposed good guys.
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Of course, shootings are chaos. Even highly trained folks struggle to stop shooters (thatâs what I was referencing re: the military base shootings). However, in this specific case, a lone white guy in an all black prayer group is actually easier to spot. Going with your the metaphor, the reticule isnât needed, one could no-scope the mofo⌠but, of course, reality/evidence suggests they wouldnât have even drawn their gun in time.
Unfortunately, guns arenât going anywhere in this country, thatâs just the fact. If Sandy Hook couldnât change anything, this sure as shit wonât.
So, given this is the horrible world we live in, I am supportive of an increase in an armed, trained black militancy movement and the new #WeWillShootBack hashtag. Thatâs where Iâm coming fromâŚ
And was reinstated across the south after Brown V. Board. Also, CSA was about slavery and white supremacy. In their OWN WORDS:
This is not my opinion, itâs the things that the Confederates themselves said. As you can see from the article. Or, if you prefer, you can read the words of confederate soldiers, many of whom also agreed that the war was about slavery and white supremacy:
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I prefer to promote the equivalency of the confederate and nazi symbols/flags as physical manifestations that express support of genocide. I feel this helps to communicate how the confederate flag is in no way an acceptable symbol to display except as an artifact of a deeply-troubled history or by idiots who want to self-identify as vehement and violent racists.
But the fact that the confederate flag is actually worse because it represents all of that AND treason, instead of just invasion/occupation, is also compellingâŚ
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