Fresno cops execute unarmed teen

[anon68952647]

@cmos1138

In this country, we have cops who are trained to shoot

and civilians who are habituated to shooting off their mouths from a comfy armchair.

[anon68952647]

@popobawa4u

they had no right to address him like that.

To be fair, they do have the right to address him that way.

But there is a long list of responsibilities they failed at.

[popobawa4u]

@AcerPlatanoides

To be fair, they do have the right to address him that way.

That’s debatable! It certainly isn’t what I pay them to do. This is why I offer to help non-violent people who are accosted by police.

@AcerPlatanoides

But there is a long list of responsibilities they failed at.

I agree.

[bbreader]

Existing police could be given employment in the military.

I wanted to mention comparison and training of US police vs otherother countries, but this says it better than I can: http://www.takepart.com/article/2015/06/29/many-countries-police-rarely-use-their-guns-heres-why

[NickSay]

Why not both?

[some_guy]

@cmos1138

the young man committed suicide by cop

I don’t see how he could have been aiming to get killed if he wasn’t even the guy the cops were looking for. I suppose it’s possible that someone randomly pulled over by the cops was already contemplating suicide and figured “cool. today’s a good day to die!” but probably not.

Either way police forces need more training in how to avoid being complicit in suicide. If Jack Kevorkian gets second degree murder for assisting in a suicide then cops should at least get manslaughter for doing essentially the same thing.

[Melizmatic]

Also a possibility.

That’s the thing about most conversations on the net:

You never know if the other guy is actually sane, sober, or even serious.

[anon68952647]

@lamaranagram

And if that’s how they are trained, you can’t blame the cop for doing what he was trained to do.

I think you mean DOG. I hope you mean DOG.

[anon68952647]

@Melizmatic

You never know if the other guy is actually sane, sober, or even serious.

or gal

[Melizmatic]

Haven’t we discussed how ‘guy’ ‘dude’ and ‘bro’ are unisex terms in Melz-speak?

I thought I put it in my standard disclaimer, but maybe I forgot…

[cmos1138]

I realize that it looked like I was trying to shush you in particular, that was not my intention. My only intention was to say to the community as a whole that there is no point in commenting on this event if you don’t watch the video.

That being said, the level of offence you have taken leads me to believe that you have not watched the video. I don’t understand why you would bother to comment on something you have not experienced? This is a terrible video and I support your right not to watch it, but please withhold judgement of the people involved in the incident if you don’t watch it.

I never watched faces of death, I don’t understand why that was ever considered entertainment. I advise against watching this, It sucks, I don’t know If I will be able to sleep tonight after this.

[anon34697667]

@AcerPlatanoides

He was armed. With arms. I suppose the solution here is to be a double amputee if you want to survive an encounter with the police these days?

Nope. They’ll shoot you because you didn’t show them your hands.

[cmos1138]

@AcerPlatanoides

Please, go lick some more boots if you think it keeps you safe.

Feel free to pretend to hold a gun behind your back next time you confront the armed bullies we employ to patrol our streets, if that is what you need to do to feel free.

I will bow down and do whatever they tell me to if it keeps me alive.

[cmos1138]

@some_guy

If Jack Kevorkian gets second degree murder for assisting in a suicide then cops should at least get manslaughter for doing essentially the same thing.

Your premise is logical but I don’t agree that doctors who assist terminally ill patients in ending their life with dignity do deserve to be charged with murder. That; however, is an entirely different discussion.

[smulder]

@cmos1138

there is no point in commenting on this event if you don’t watch the video

Was this a good execution of an unarmed teen or a bad execution of an unarmed teen?

I need more videos to figure it out!

[cmos1138]

@AcerPlatanoides

Plenty of oppressive regimes need apologists who can speak english. Go for it!

You seem to be taking my comments very personally, strange.

[cmos1138]

@AcerPlatanoides

and civilians who are habituated to shooting off their mouths from a comfy armchair.

Hi pot, What are you sitting in?

[Matthew_Fabb]

@William_Holz

But as I said, they’re the professionals who signed up to put their lives on the line and who are supposed to be trained well enough not to escalate these situations. (and he didn’t even match the description, so they created this situation…it never needed to happen)

In Ontario, Canada there was a report done looking into police shootings in the province. Here’s a short article about the findings of the report. It came to the conclusion that the police need to get better training in n de-escalation techniques.

From the article:

He says inquests have shown police respond with their guns when vulnerable people are in crisis because they are following their training, which focuses on “drawing their weapons and yelling commands.”

Also:

…they get plenty of instruction on how to use their guns, but not enough on how to use their “mouths.”

While the report focused on Ontario, I think the findings are applicable to a large number of police services across Canada and the US.

[woodfish]

Nah, he was just articulating the thoughts in my head. Please continue @AcerPlatanoides

[William_Holz]

@Matthew_Fabb

In Ontario, Canada there was a report done looking into police shootings in the province. Here’s a short article about the findings of the report. It came to the conclusion that the police need to get better training in n de-escalation techniques.

Oh yeah, and I should have clarified by ‘supposed to be’ I meant ‘in a civil society’ rather than ‘flawed laws made by flawed people’. I know for some people this is all operating as intended.