Fuck Today (Part 1)

I’d (much) rather have him for President.

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Or the ones that voted for Stein and threw the election to Trump in WI, PA, and MI.

Trump will have approval ratings in the Rod Blagojevich zone before he gets his ass thrown out.

I grew up with Illinois politics at around the same time RB did, and to be honest there’s nothing he did that wasn’t considered SOP back in the 70s. Or even today: in any state where the governor fills an open Senator seat, that governor will be using his power for political purposes and expecting some promised tit for tat before the appointment. They just usually aren’t so open about it.

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Three electors in WA voted for Colin Powell and one voted for Faith Spotted Eagle. WA went to Hillary. Thanks a fucking heap guys.

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Maybe the Democratic Party will have a come to Jesus moment, be more progressive and less corporatist, and not actively torpedo the more progressive members of its party. Maybe they will fight Trump every step of the way until people are nostalgic for the bipartisanship of the Obama Era. Maybe the next Democratic nominee will court younger and more liberal voters, campaign in the Rust Belt, and… who am I kidding, these guys are the jabronis of US politics, they’ll do none of that.

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How much “less corporatist” is enough to avoid the purity purges of “conscience”?

Good god these morons.

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Okay, fine. More corporatist. I’ll just continue to vote against my interests. It doesn’t matter.

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Someone in Maine tried to vote for Sanders and wasn’t allowed to, apparently. Someone in Hawaii, too?

So those Hamilton Electors were really organized, as well as taking votes away from their own candidate they protested by picking 5 or 6 different protest candidates. I thought the plan was to coordinate with Rep Electors to pick someone they’d be prepared to switch to, not protest against the Democratic candidate?

I look forward to another purity fight between Booker and Warren (or some similar matchup) in 4 years time.

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Well, it’s finally official now.

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You’re not really arguing with me with that response :stuck_out_tongue:

It was a serious question, what would be enough so that the “take their ball and go home” crowd wouldn’t grandstand?

Seriously, what chucklefucks.

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Finally. Donald Trump can release his tax returns!

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Yup, and tell us how he’s going to address his many conflicts of interest.

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I’d have no problem with either of those if they’d been actual candidates.

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Third party successes (including being an effective spoiler) have never moved a mainstream party in their direction. What normally happens is that they allow the main party an opportunity to simply marginalize the views the 3rd party supports.

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Unfortunately yes. But what about major party failures?

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We third party voters have neither a ball nor a home.

But seriously, for me at least, it would take someone like Bernie Sanders, or Elizabeth Warren, or Keith Ellison. The likes of Cory Booker would also do, in a pinch.

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Fucking Democrats. (I say this as a longtime Democrat who spent the past several years with the Green Party until I went Dem again to vote for Bernie Sanders in the primary this year)

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I mean fuck their ends and goals but the American right really knows how to get their goals enacted. So much less self-sabotage and navel-gazing.

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Seriously. We need some goddamn bare knuckles right now.

Seen on Twitter: “They go low, we roll over and play dead.” :angry:

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That’s what I’ve been saying this whole time

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There was one time when this was true:

Or rather, twice:

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