Sign me up!
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I was gifted the set. Halfway through the first book I dipped into the rest for a page or two and concluded I should skip them all. 
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“Gentleman” is a boing-boing term of art meaning the opposite of same.
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He was endangering everyone in the store with his behavior.
Couldnt the manager have resolved it non-violently by telling the guy: "At this time, I'm not going to stop you from entering the store. However, I will be instructing my cashiers to _not_ process your goods." Thus, there would be no point in even entering— unless, he wants to escalate and steal the goods, which takes the incident to a blatantly criminal level. [Uh, I guess he could counter-strike by adding up the tally himself and throwing the money at them??]
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#winnerwinnerchickendinner
I find telling them they don’t have to shop here and they in fact may be happier shopping elsewhere. Normally that pisses them off enough to never come back, when you make it clear you really don’t need their business.
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Business: “We have the right to deny service.”
Gentleman Ken: “What about my rights?”
Business: “So sue me… but get out of my sandbox before I call the police.”
Ken: “Why am I being arrested?”
Failure of Trader Joe’s management. Over 10 minutes of hiding in the stockroom.
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McKinney is the county seat of Collin Co., TX (just north of Dallas, and the county I live in as well). It’s chock full of high income, self-absorbed, entitled conservatives. So this display of gentlemanly conduct is no surprise at all. And this will only get worse next week when the governor gets rid of the mask mandate and declares the state “100% open”.
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Given that people have been shot over situations like this I don’t really blame the TJ’s workers for not being more vigorous in keeping the guy out. I’m pretty sure I wouldn’t be willing to die for Trader Joe’s. Also, Texas, where assuming the guy is armed is a better bet. Don’t they claim an armed society is a polite society?
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I’m fascinated by Karens on 2 levels, cheap lols and total bafflement at modern white rage.
Most videos are candid but this guy has prepped but is still fired up by rage. At what?
All of the hallmarks are there:
- Lies - probable (his disability that prevents him wearing a mask but doesn’t make it unsafe for him to go to various shops and start altercations with people). The subtext is that I might not be disabled…but I could be!
- Lies provable - He isn’t being kidnapped and it isn’t worse than Nazi Germany.
- Manners trumps behaviour. His risk of spreading a deadly pathogen is trumped by anyone being rude to him. Trump used this every time he was the most powerful man in the world casting himself as the victim to ‘nasty’ journalists which brings us to …
- Infantalism. Creating narratives about fairness while throwing an out of control tantrum that would put a 5 year old to shame.
- Bullying. He hasn’t picked somewhere with a heavy security or more specifically armed security presense. He is fairly sure that the guys at TJ won’t forcibly detain or block him. Which brings us on to …
- Being indulged. He is rightly confident that the police would indulge him if called, but TJs also let him come into the store, put their customers and staff at risk and SERVE HIM! He lives in the world of white privelage that is allowing the capital terrorists out on bail and it isn no risk at all for him to do what he does and get away with it.
- Moral precident. Spurious and improvised citations of the law, Texas pride, His religious bullshit. All stacked up to justify his actions.
- The language of the genuinely oppressed. All of these narratives shamelessly use the historical discourse of oppressed people to describe petty inconveniences to the overly-entitled. Confidence is worth everything and with no one to chalenge him, he gets to say it all as though he is genuinely facing down an opressor.
But where does it all come from?
Did white people expect things to always get better? Are they enraged that they didn’t? Is rage inate and if not the product of enraging incidents, does it manifest itelf in response to anything?
Baffling.
Also are there lots of incidents where white ragers get attacked for their behavious physically but they aren’t being filmed or is the illusion that it never happens true?
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If he wasn’t wearing a shirt or shoes he’d be turned away also.
It’s about behavior, not beliefs.
These people are idiots.
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When he killed off Saltheart Foamfollower, that was it for me.
They simply are scared shitless of losing their privileged position in society. I really do think it’s as simple as that. Some will come to grudgingly accept it (as some did post-civil rights), but some will nurse a grudge and do whatever little thing they can do to undermine a truly democratic society, up to and for apparently none too few including burning the whole god damn thing down rather than treat the historical “Others” as equal members of society due all the privileges they’ve historically enjoyed.
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Those poor kids. I doubt this sort of sanctimonious belligerent misconduct is an isolated occurrence. Despite being out of control agitated he comes across as practiced. Maybe him and his religious buddies talk this way? He keeps dredging up faith reference.
Poor kids. Sadly if they weren’t present do you think he would have escalated to violence? “Your doing nothing wrong” he tells them, true. I hope they get the help they deserve or they might grow up hating TJ’s even if they sell the preferred maple syrup.
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Yep. And they have limited emotions to work with, so fear manifests as anger.
You might know who said this, I can’t find it right now, but I heard a woman speaking on the radio a while back about the phenomenon and she put it in terms that really helped me understand. She said something like, imagine you’re standing in line, and you’re waiting your turn, knowing that you’ll get to the front of the line and get your factory job and picket fence, etc., etc. And then all these women and “others” come and cut you in line. That’s what these guys feel like.
It’s not logical, but that’s how they feel.
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I suspect coex’s use of quotes around the word disability was not for the purpose of scare quotes but to cast doubt on anti-maskers who claim to have a disability when they in reality do not. It is a disservice to folks with real accessibility needs to claim a disability where there is none.
Your comment that “you don’t actually care about the health and well-being of disabled people” in a thread where we are discussing the public health risks of people not wearing masks is a little hyperbolic. People who advocate mask-wearing are interested in the health of others, including disabled folks.
Public safety also sometimes trumps the need to provide reasonable accommodations. Folks with visual impairments are not allowed to drive. People with certain hepatitis strains can’t work in food service.
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This so called gentleman is 100% incorrect he has no Americans with disabilities act protections
when it comes to masks, Trader Joe’s is a privately owned business they can refuse service to anyone rules are rules put a f****** mask on
if you want to shop at Trader Joe’s I do I have no problem at all of course I’m not a selfish a****** who only thinks about himself.
also any Doctor who is stupid enough to write a note for a patient that they can’t wear a mask is taking a huge risk at losing their license to practice medicine
fact there is no known condition that can prevent somebody from putting a f****** mask over their nose and mouth because Mask don’t interfere with your ability to breathe
unless you have an oxygen mask on that prevents you from putting a paper mask on but if you’re using a tubular oxygen system just pumps oxygen up your nose you can still put a paper mask on
This! We don’t have to pick winners and losers among the mask-able or otherwise. We’ve seen in plenty of other Karen/Tucker videos that the managers repeatedly offer to bring the groceries to their car so they don’t have to go into the store. Ordering online with curbside pickup is free at many grocery stores (at least in my area).
Around here, NextDoor has also become a place where people volunteer to shop for those who can’t afford delivery services but are not able/willing to take the risk of going in a store or wearing a mask.
Point is, these conversations tend to drift into false dichotomies of whether mask-wearing disabilities are real. It doesn’t matter! We can accommodate everyone regardless, with a little thought.
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I would agree that ableism is heavily embedded in society and culture, and that hidden disabilities are quite common. But there is no inalienable right to infect other people in a pandemic. Other people in the store may have impaired immunity (one of those hidden disabilities), and no one else to get them food. Or may be going home to someone who’s older, or ill. Erring on the side of not killing people is not a bad policy, and it should be respected. If he’s not been wearing a mask all over Texas, he really shouldn’t be talking and spreading more of his droplets.
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