Re: Melania watch
Evidently she is scheduled to meet with Gold Star families at the White House. An event that requires tact and poise, so hopefully Mr. Trump won’t be there.
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I really hope she’s in WitSec, and not beaten up or dead.
Guess we’ll see if she shows up at that scheduled appearance tonight…
Sidenote;
Things are really shitty when one must consider the worst case scenarios regarding the FLOTUS’ lack of visibility.
Lots of US presidents have been bad, but I never before had genuine suspicions that any of them might have committed foul play against their own wives.
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Plea deal? He resigns quietly in exchange for avoiding prosecution. If Mueller builds a strong enough case this seems like a reasonable scenario. There will be a lot of people in Washington who wants to avoid the scandal of a big trial no mater what Trump has done.
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There are credible claims that Nixon used to beat his wife Pat but the Press didn’t cover it because it fell into the realm of “private spousal matters.” And I’m not talking unfounded tabloid rumor, this is from Seymour Freakin’ Hersh:
In 1974, he writes, Hersh heard that Nixon’s wife Pat was in hospital after being punched by her husband. It was not an isolated occasion. He did not report on the story, he told Nieman Foundation fellows in 1998, because it represented “a merging of private life and public life.” Nixon didn’t make policy decisions because of his bad marriage, went the argument. Hersh was “taken aback” by the response from women fellows, who pointed out that he had heard of a crime and not reported it. “All I could say,” Hersh writes, “is that at the time I did not—in my ignorance—view the incident as a crime.”
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If Giuliani were correct the president could literally murder anyone in Congress who might impeach him, pardon himself, and it would be constitutional.
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George Washington responds to the suggestion that he should have unfettered executive power:
"Sir,
With a mixture of great surprise & astonishment I have read with attention the Sentiments you have submitted to my perusal. Be assured, Sir, no occurrence in the course of the War, has given me more painful sensations than your information of there being such ideas existing in the Army as you have expressed, & I must view with abhorrence, and reprehend with severity"
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Would a secret service agent take a bullet for Trump? They have seen more of him than just about anyone else, and I imagine a few of them are pretty disgusted. Professionalism only go so far. Shoot someone threatening the President, sure. Sacrificing your own life? Not so sure about that.
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If someone had told me this morning that today I’d get a brand new reason to hate Nixon I’d have… well, I guess I wouldn’t have been that surprised.
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This would continue a long tradition of failing the American public by not prosecuting politicians for their crimes. I am fully in support of not targeting political opponents for partisan reasons but I’m tired of that being used to justify not holding them accountable.
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Sorry, I should have specified: in my lifetime. I wasn’t born until almost a full year after Nixon left the White House in disgrace.
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They would. And they wouldn’t hesitate. It’s their job and duty and those men and women know full well what they are signing up for. It isn’t about if they are a good person or not or have politics and the agent agrees with or not.
So yes. They would. Zero doubt.
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if a POTUS were to kill someone he would be impeached; then after impeachment , he is no longer a sitting POTUS so then a grand jury could indict him
For the longest time, it didn’t look like Greitens was going to, either, and he had both parties trying to get him out.
The parallel isn’t exact, but expect Trump to ignore any calls for his leaving, even if his party finally has enough.
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The Secret Service aren’t quite the supermen they are supposed to be:
https://edition.cnn.com/2017/04/06/politics/timeline-secret-service-misconduct/index.html
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Re: The chicken or the egg - the problem I see is that in Giuliani’s example it would be assumed there was clear evidence to impeach someone, even if they weren’t technically found guilty of the crime yet.
In other, less extreme examples, there maybe enough evidence to bring to trial, but their question of guilt isn’t 100%. If if was high enough, yes you could impeach first. If it wasn’t high enough, and only through the evidence presented at trial and the verdict was it found he was guilty - well - you can’t get that far because he wasn’t impeached yet. 
Something something, animals more special…
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Bingo. He wouldn’t even have to murder them, just arrest a few of them on trumped up charges and use the Trumphorn (Fox etc) to blast the ‘scandals’ to everyone around. Make sure enough of them aren’t able to vote or participate in an impeachment, and he wins.
The rest of us would lose our minds, and the democracy would be over, but nobody cares about us.
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Uh, yo! Steven! We kinda need your special skills to help out with this mess. Or was all that “no man is above the law” talk just a bunch of hooey?
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Not sure he’s up to helping.
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