Giuliani says even if Trump murdered Comey he can't be indicted

One might argue that it’s actually quite counter-productive, as it could encourage people to stay home and not vote.

Have you read anything about that asshat lately? It was definitely hooey. He’s a total fuckwad.

2 Likes

Well, shit. We may have to call on the 'gade then.

image

2 Likes

I’m just totally baffled by this bullshit.

If someone said to me, “You can’t arrest the Queen!” I’d say, yeah, I get that, the Queen is the law. When you have a court case in Canada or the UK the case is recorded as “R v Smith” R being “Rex” or “Regina” and typically read aloud as “The Crown against Smith”. If you put the Queen on trial the trial would be “Queen vs. Queen”. You can see the problem.

To try to make the same argument in America is genuinely bizarre, and the idea that any legal scholars take it seriously blows my mind. The president is actually Just Some Fucking Guy™. I thought that was the entire point. The court case against the President would be “The People v. Smith”. Nothing inherently absurd about that. The president is not “the people” any more than anyone else is, they don’t become king of America just because they are crooks.

12 Likes

*Other political positions are available to criminals

3 Likes

I didn’t say they were supermen and women. Don’t take liberties in my statement.

Their human. Their flaws whatever they may be does not mean they won’t do their job.

2 Likes

While I do understand where the logic of “he can’t be indicted while serving” comes from, constitutionally speaking, it’s no less bonkers to also state that the president is being negligent in his duties, and in violation of his oath, if he spends even a single day not performing presidential duties.

2 Likes

If anyone is wondering if far right wingers think this is a good development, the AP News story has been buried on Breitbart.

ETA: And Fox News is seemingly refusing to play apologist to it too.

1 Like

Ted Cruz took 18 seconds today to consider how to best equivocate when asked about whether or not the President can pardon himself.

Michael Moore agrees with you.

2 Likes

Hey, he’s gotta die sometime.

(The sooner, the better.)

7 Likes

Yup. And he is not a healthy man.

I don’t think Trump will survive long enough for a “third term” to become an issue.

OTOH, Trump is a symptom of US fascism, not the cause.

8 Likes

Mark my words; by hook or crook, there will be no ‘second term.’

Agreed.

5 Likes

Nixon
Yeah, Nixon thought he was also above the law… that silly notion didn’t work out so well for him. And it won’t work out for the Dotard

5 Likes

short of nominating Hillary again, i’m not exactly sure who that person might be, though. what other Dem (aside from the 2 who are barred by amendment 22 from running again) has such a history of eliciting loony opposition and wide-spread mistrust? Pelosi isn’t going to run for president. it seems much more likely it’ll be a newer face, like Obama was. sure, the crazies will be crazy… but Hillary’s big problem seemed to be non-crazy people having heard bullshit conspiracies about her for several decades, and wondering if there was some truth behind them…

2 Likes

OMG - this made me LOL.

16 Likes
4 Likes

there is no spoon. i think.

my next project (only in my own dreams) will be creating an app that mediates all online interaction, letting us all ( individually, no corporate overlords allowed please ) review our own edit history wherever we go.

maybe with annotations like “oh, i should’ve said” for when it comes time to write our various memoirs. :wink:

1 Like

i wish reporters would ask questions like that. everybody’s still all deferential to the office, but it’s not like those press conferences are useful in anyway. might as well be as absurdist as the administration.

1 Like

IANAL, but I don’t think so. The POTUS is immune to Federal criminal prosecution. It depends on the circumstances, but as I understand it murder is usually tried by the states. He may not have to be impeached to face criminal prosecution in state courts. Bu as you say, it’s uncharted waters, and no one would have imagined we’d ever need to sail there until President Spray Tan.

2 Likes