Redcaps, you say?
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Well, at least now we know why Trump is concerned about foreign rapists comming to the US, he doesn’t want the competition. 
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Dudes talking about assaulting women and that’s not big deal? Really? Maybe rethink your position here.
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Also, @anon73430903:
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Yes. But that doesn’t excuse Trump of course.
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Indeed, I’m super happy to admit I was wrong here. He doesn’t seem to be able shake this one off. Final fuckkng ly!
Now the big problem is that if he backs out Pence will run, and he has a much better chance of winning. Hmm.
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Good. I’m glad you have come around. Someone bragging about sexual assault isn’t a joke and it illustrates just how reprehensible a human being Trump is… as if we needed more confirmation of that.
I don’t think Pence does, actually. While he’s not bragged about sexually assaulting women, he has beliefs that are far outside the mainstream (especially with regards to abortion). I think he’s tainted by his decision to run with Trump in the first place and by his defenses of him. And as someone upthread (I think) noted, changing the ticket now would be super-tricky, if not impossible. The GOP has really shot itself in the foot here.
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It is a relief to learn that sexual assaults are ultimately the fault of the victims.
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Yep. Victim blaming is never cool.
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It isnt a safe plan but this unacceptable fascist type candidate is a sympton not a disease. And its not like you outlined your competing plan. The US will eventually vote for someone worse if you don’t fix it - its just a matter of time. And the hopelessness which has has created Trump is not best addressed by ignoring it and calling them all racists. Thats not a plan either.
Trump is not the candidate that really bothers me. Its the next Trump who is a little smoother and a little less vile that really bothers me. And since no one will do anything to address the dismantling of checks and balances which have happened its only a matter of time. I guess Aristotle ran us through how this worked a while ago.
But to be fair - the Republicans have been backing away from Trump. Probably because as nasty as he is, he is a threat to those who have stitched up funding for their buddies in the defense world/banking world etc.
John McCain for example has apparently withdrawn his support for Trump. Probably cos Trump is too nice to women. From Huff Post
“Three reporters from Arizona, on the condition of anonymity, also let me in on another incident involving McCain’s intemperateness. In his 1992 Senate bid, McCain was joined on the campaign trail by his wife, Cindy, as well as campaign aide Doug Cole and consultant Wes Gullett. At one point, Cindy playfully twirled McCain’s hair and said, “You’re getting a little thin up there.” McCain’s face reddened, and he responded, “At least I don’t plaster on the makeup like a trollop, you c*nt.” McCain’s excuse was that it had been a long day. If elected president of the United States, McCain would have many long days.”
- And somehow that guy is still in politics.
There is very little I personally can do to try and move the dial back to rationalism. I will push back when people tell me one candidate is the candidate of light and the other darkness. To my mind they are both pretty scummy although one is a nasty sexist idiot billionaire and the other is a well briefed neoconservative multi-millionairess. But you dont have to be a conspiracy theorist to think that maybe the Russians aren’t hacking the US elections (why bother?) and maybe as vile as Trump is he is merely a symptom and not a cause.
What would you suggest to reverse the trend towards authoritarianism in the US?
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Make the victory against the authoritarian candidate as complete and one-sided as possible, so that the next Trump decides not to run, or the next set of primary voters decide not to vote for him.
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BAM. Yes. The electorate needs to send a clear message that no candidate that bears the slightest resemblance to Trump or his values can have any shot at the office whatsoever.
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I think it is definitely considered rude to use cunt to describe a woman in the British/Aussie speaking world. You can only use the term on men.
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Trump’s been working on that this morning:
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One of the better responses I’ve seen today…
The men rushing to tell us all that they talk about women exactly the way @realDonaldTrump did in his tape seem to think they're helping.
— J.K. Rowling (@jk_rowling) October 9, 2016
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Out of all the horrible things Trump has said during his campaign, I wonder why this is the one that seems to be sticking. I mean, a lot of his actual policy proposals, if you can call them that, have been equally vile.
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His hypocrisy is so much better than everyone else’s! He has the best hypocrisy!
Yeah, it’s not even a joke anymore.
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This has been mentioned a time or two by others upthread, but it’s a long and meandering thread and an important point, so I’ll echo it.
What makes this different is that this is something goes against something that his colleagues in the Republican party really believe in. His other remarks (racism and xenophobia and anti women’s-rights ) are practically the planks of their platform. Maybe not so blatant, but definitely the same ballpark. More klaxon as opposed to the usual dogwhistle.
But speaking in such a way about women who they view as their property, not as individuals but as wives and mothers of their children is out of order. It’s a personal attack against them, not an attack against “the others”.
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This is a hard question; I don’t know that there are easy answers. Phrases like “restore faith in American democracy” come to mind, but how do we do that, and what does that even mean?
At the core of the Trump movement you have a class of people who feel they have been left behind economically and resent the political establishment for enabling multinational corporations to divest so much of their interests from the United States, and are willing to say “fuck it” and give up on democratic principles entirely.
If Hillary wins in a landslide, I don’t think it will really change that equation. Democrats will learn the lesson that they are the only rational ones and everything they’ve done has been reasonable; Republicans will learn the lesson that their next fascist candidate should be someone who’s not a blithering idiot with zero filter and zero attention span.
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