Silly me, responding to your exact words…
Here’s what you wrote:
I just re-read the entire thread. There is no post that says “bitch had it coming,” nor anything to that effect. Your original words were wrong, the gist of them was wrong, and even your moved goal posts are still wrong. Notice the trend? It continues. Your hyperbolic comparison of this incident to rape and spousal abuse? Also wrong.
First rule of holes, HW, stop digging.
Okay, apparently some of you need this explained to you-
That wasn’t a “comparison.” It was an example of an escalation. Here’s a more literal breakdown for those of you who are still having trouble understanding:
“Wow, some of the commenters here are comfortable saying really gross things about someone they don’t know. I wonder what the next horrible thing they’ll say might be?”
Perhaps you ought to try directing your discontent directly at the comments that have got you so riled, and caused you to so clumsily state your case, rather than just making wild generalisations about the tone and intent you feel is prevalent in this thread.
Except A) nobody said those things, and B) your slippery slope argument is pure hyperbolic, non-analgous conjecture.
Notable in your posts is your utter lack of quotes of anybody saying what you claimed.
Seriously? Are you incapable of understanding a summarizing statement as opposed to a literal one? I never claimed that anyone actually said “bitch had it coming.” I characterized the statements implying that she deserved to be shot in that vernacular specifically to call attention to the way some of us are apparently willing to talk about our political opposites when bad things happen to them. You focused on that phrasing specifically to put me on the defensive rather than actually addressing the issue that I raised.
Taking pleasure in physical harm done to others purely on their divergent political opinions is wrong. There’s the gist. Hope you have an easier time with it now that there aren’t any pesky examples of really horrible escalations of behavior to muddy the waters for you.
Citation Needed.
Quote these incidents that offend you so greatly and that you claim form a clear and horrible trend.
I prefer to think that the notable part of my posts was the bit where I questioned people’s willingness to celebrate the harm of someone with divergent political views, but apparently I wasn’t working hard enough to argue with individuals when I made that statement.
And no quotes.
Yes, you win the internet with your clever adherence to minutiae. Surely nobody commenting on any iterations of this story did so in a glib, celebratory way because they don’t like guns, and we know this is true because I didn’t use the quote function to your satisfaction. Good work, detective!
Well, one person did…
There, again.
Yes, yes, minutiae like asking for actual evidence, in the form of quotes from this very thread, of this trend you claim is so horrible. How silly of me…
Okay that made me laugh (in a genuine, non-sarcastic way).
Still, that was a characterization not a claimed quote. And also not really the central point of my statement, but apparently we’re done questioning that sort of thing already.
Well OK that made me smile, in a genuine not sarcastic way, so maybe there is hope for us all…
Seriously, I haven’t been through the thread, but I imagine there are probably a few dubious comments, I think it would be worth you calling them out directly where you see them.
Eh, I try to avoid calling people out directly because generally I’m not interested in picking internet fights with individuals. If people are comfortable gloating about something like this I’m comfortable wondering aloud to the room why that is. It’s only the occasional individual who thinks that question is valueless because it lacks quotes or uses half-serious hypothetical escalations they don’t like. In the end I’m not losing any sleep over this.
You made a characterization that is not supported by the actual posts in the thread, then you used your false characterization as the basis for an unfounded, hyperbolic parade of horribles. You may be “comfortable” with it, but I’d rather see you post based on facts rather than repeatedly making self-aggrandizing excuses for why you can’t quote a single post that supports your claim.
Good point.
Nevertheless:
“Being shot” (or, perhaps, “hoisted on her own petard”) isn’t the punishment prescribed by law.
I would argue that that isn’t acceptable as punishment, but losing access to the 2nd Amendment protections should be perfectly acceptable for two months in jail. I don’t have any issue with making it permanent after she’s set free, but I guess that’s not in the cards.
How many other times before this event has she actually been extremely lucky to not shoot anyone else? If she doesn’t serve time, what assurance would her apologists offer legal gun owners (or non-owners) that she won’t do it again?
I can’t believe it either. But we have some serious problems with gun violence over here in the US, and I think that cases involving negligence so often go without redress that it’s small wonder why.
No, the child NEEDS to be deprived of the willfully negligent fundamentalist who was supposed to be caring for him.
What a SHOCKING surprise! Our resident gunnut proposes going easy on someone who recklessly endangered herself, her family, and the community at large though her wilful disregard of some pretty fucking basic firearms safety rules.
My gast is flabbered to hear you say stuff like that Mr44.
Wait. No it isn’t. You response is utterly predictable.
That would probably constitute ‘cruel and unusual punishment’. Real life gunshot wounds aren’t nice and as easily thrown off as the way Hollywood portrays them. This guy blogged his recovery. It took quite a while.
But the point I’m making is that the rest of the OECD doesn’t imprison nearly as many as the US. There’s no evidence that incarceration or the threat of it reduces crime or recidivism rates — on the contrary, a prison term reduces future employment prospects and lack of employment is associated with further criminality. That being the case, surely pushing for incarceration is suboptimal when you can just take her guns away and make a public example of her as a really bad example of gun safety?
How would forcing her to shame herself before the community that she publicly associates herself with be going easy on her? Particularly as she likely already gets reminded just how stupid she is every time she moves …
