Why are the antigun nuts so blood-thirsty and punishment-hungry?
Iâm sorry, being shot is serious and traumatizing. I was referring to the
180 days as a slap on the wrist.
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As even more of an aside, decriminalisation and taxation of marijuana would (a) make more room in prison for profilic criminals and (b) raise more taxes to help improve the criminal justice system.
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Hey mom, remember that time�
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Well, for one, I no longer visit the US because I no longer have business there, but I really donât want to go somewhere where nut-cases go around with loaded guns and the safeties off - if they even have them. If I had to live there like my relatives, it would be a constant anxiety. The risk of being shot to death (other than suicide) in the US is comparable to being killed in a road accident in the UK.
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They have really nice shooting ranges. I would really not mind going to one and shooting a big machinegun.
Or spending an evening at a friendâs reloading bench, processing some ammunition and chatting about tech.
How does it compare if we donât count the gang-occupied no-go avoided-anyway areas?
The areas occupied by people whose lives donât count?
Thatâs always under the surface in gun discussions, but itâs rare to see it expressed so literally.
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The risk is not distributed homogeneously over the entire country. A risk of a traffic accident is quite different in a place with few cars and few roads, vs the area with heavy traffic and overstrained infrastructure. It is somewhat foolish to worry in a low-risk area when the worries are based on a whole-country average.
What would happen if the 4 year old wasnât âcleared of maliceâ?
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But surely she will lose custody of the kids 
Sheâs demonstrably unfit to care for children (and possibly herself).
Another thing to note is Glocks and XDs both have INTERNAL safeties. The point of these safeties is to NOT have an accidental discharge if the firearm is dropped or hit. In those respects, both are extremely safe. The only way for the gun to fire is from the trigger being pulled, and both have longer, heavier trigger than safety equipped single action guns. If you all want me to give a quick mechanics run down I can.
I think, like a drunk driver, telling her story to school children and adults would be impactful lessons for the children to follow the âstop, donât touch, tell an adultâ line of safety, and the adults double their vigilance in securing their firearms.
No, but there is certainly some Schadenfreude among some. Would you call someone a âdumb redneckâ if they had turned left in their truck, not seeing an oncoming semi, and got T-boned, causing injury to themselves and possibly as passenger (or even death?). Probably not, because while it was a stupid mistake 100% the fault of the driver, we all have done something stupid in traffic on accident.
Though to be clear, even accidents, if they are negligent, deserve consequences.
Wow - whatâs the word for what you just did there? I mean you arenât saying sheâs a horrible person who deserved it, but I canât quite tell what other reason bring up an unrelated issue other than to imply it.
Going easy? I suggested that jail time served no purpose. I hold similar opinions for other things like non-violent drug offenses. Nor did I condone her behavior. She clearly failed to properly secure her firearm and she paid a heavy price for it. The best use of âpunishmentâ is to use her story to warn and educate others.
Well that is an irrational fear. Do you worry about about shark attacks when visiting the beach? I imagine you donât drive, because youâre much more likely to die from a road accident than a shooting accident. You must be terrified to fly given the recent airport bombing.
The real issue appears to be his disappointment with BoingBoing 
In the case of threat thatâs so unevenly distributed, this is more akin to worrying about shark attacks inland.
âŚbut maybe thereâs really that risk of a sharknadoâŚ
The âquotation marksâ you used in the first instance indicate a quote. One you invented.
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IIRC doesnât range (& velocity & everything else I guess) have a lot to do with it? As in, a hollow point pointblank through soft tissue is far less likely to splinter, or if it does into fewer bits, than when hitting anything downrange, within the weapons effective range? Canât recall where/why I read/thought hat but it seemed reasonable.
As the childâs guardian just literally put the child in mortal danger due to extreme negligence, it could be easily argued that the child needs to be moved into care and be looked after by a responsible adult*.
Like the original poster said, this was a slap on the wrist really.
(*NB not that iâm necessarily arguing for this to actually happen though.)
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Hollow point bullets donât splinter. They expand, but generally speaking, retain the all the mass in one object.
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Well range has some thing to do with it. Something far away where the bullet has less energy will result in it being less likely to open up. But for hand guns, point black or 50 feet away isnât going to make a difference. Long range deer hunting it might. The newer hunting bullets are made to still open up at a lower velocity.
The purpose again of hollow points is for the width to increase in tissue, by the bullet sort of âfloweringâ. This created a wider wound channel. They also want to do this WITH OUT the bullet fragmenting. Fragmenting means the energy gets absorbed easier, sort of like a race car that splinters apart. Of course nothing works 100%. You can have hollow points the become âpluggedâ or for some other reason donât open up and act like a FMJ. Older versions were more prone to having the copper case separate from the lead and/or have petals come apart. And once they hit something, they can bounce, they can tumble, they can zip through. It really is a crap shoot. It is why some people can get hit multiple times and live, and others die with a single shot.
For those who donât know WTF this even looks like, here is a Barnes X hollow point, which is one of the more modern bullets, using ONE type of metal, vs the traditional lead covered in copper, these are all copper (or possibly a copper alloy). This would be for deer hunting or something like that. Note it has a plastic tip to aid in ballistics.
Here is a sample of 9mm defensive rounds. I THINK the one on the right is the Speer Gold Dot, which was developed to meet the FBI wanted specs.
Finally, in searching I found someone put this up. It shows tests on how a bullet opens up when used against different mediums.
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Sheâs not âmerely stupid.â Sheâs criminally negligent. What if the kid had shot himself â a completely likely scenario for a four-year-old with a gun â would we say she was âmerely stupidâ then?
If anything, sheâs lucky to have gotten away with an injury, and not death or the death of her child, so now that sheâs enjoyed her luck, itâs time to face consequences.
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You donât think she should be punished for rather clearly endangering her child?
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