Hillary Clinton accepts Democratic party nomination for president

Some are even thinking of worker-owned companies.

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Are you sure that’s USA? Looks more like a French flag to me…

Heck, my own senator is still in the TPP camp (and I wish he’d get out); he is otherwise an awesome guy who does good work. Maybe I should write him a letter, though I’m not sure what to say other than “TPP BAAAAAD.”

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I actually got an email back this week from one of the people I sent it to about TPP (I sent it to my local MP, to the Minister of International Trade, and to the Prime Minister — the Minister of Trade’s office was the one who replied), saying, basically, “We hear your concerns, but we’re listening to the other side, too, so no promises.”

Truthfully, any reply is more than I expected, so even a noncommittal reply is nice. I just hope that they make the right decision.

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Perhaps a nice cordial email explaining why you have serious issues with TPP might give you a response that signifies whether he’s changing his mind a bit.

I contacted my rep for something (I think the link was broken on their weekly e-news letter) and I got a response from a former student. We emailed back and forth to catch up, and I took one of those times to tell him that I wasn’t keen on the secretive TPP. He unofficially acknowledged told that our Congressman wasn’t too enthusiastic about it, either, and was considering a no vote. And this was last fall when there was a lot of pressure for House Democrats to support TPP.

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Of the five people who replied to those comments saying they wouldn’t be “falling in line,” @thirdworldtaxi, @milliefink and @enso have been posting anti-Hillary messages even today (much to the annoyance of those who are holding their noses to support Hillary), and @Malarkey, as far as I can see, has neither denounced nor endorsed Hillary since the primaries ended.

Only @snowlark has said that they support Clinton, and their only contribution to the discussion wasn’t to say that they wouldn’t be voting Clinton, but rather:

I don’t see anyone claiming that no one would vote Hillary, only a few people insisting that they themselves wouldn’t do so, and they seem to have stuck to their guns about it.

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I really don’t know at this point. I say this in the knowledge that it doesn’t matter if I do though. I live in California and anyone with “(D)” next to their name carries our state for president.

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Oh you! Knocking down his lovely windmill before he could get in a good run at it.

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Hey, don’t diss Don Quixote. He may have been a fool, but he was a noble, true gentleman of a fool.

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True. And a much more gentle spirit as well.

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What, you’d rather they wore the actual stars and stripes, rather than just a red white & blue color scheme?

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It’s…frustrating. I’m still steaming after the DNC email leaks, knowing that Sanders would almost certainly have had an even better chance at clinching the nomination. The left should be glowing white-hot right now, with much of that heat on local and state Democratic candidates.

All I can say is I’m glad I have some ondansetron in my medicine cabinet, 'cause I’m going to need it come November.

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You’re not the only one. If he’d have lost fairly, it would still be a bitter pill to swallow. But we will never really know now, will we? Given the brazen arrogance shown by the emails I wouldn’t put it past the DNC to more actively cook the books for Hillary. And giving DWS a nice cushy appointment with the campaign less than two days after her impartiality was brought to light… that makes it look even worse. I guess you can add me to @nimelennar’s list of the not-yet-convinced. Hopefully that will change before November as I am terrified of a Trump/Pence presidency… but I’m about ready to take a break on politics and political threads. I’m feeling overwhelmed right now and it would probably do me some good to set it aside for a while and come back fresher later.

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Some threads call for a chill. Some call for cake. So here’s some ice cream cake for ya:

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Awwww, thank you! :flushed: Right back at ya!

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@nimelennar, I am on board with Hillary. I live in the swing state of VA and it would be irresponsible of me to write in Bernie or vote Green - there’s too much at stake!

My form of protest will be not contributing to Hillary or phone banking for her or knocking on doors - all things I’ve done in the past.

I’m not enthusiastic, but I’m not suicidal,either.

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Effective protest is action, not inaction. The electorate most motivated to go to the polls this year is Trump’s, not Hilary’s, so it’s worth knocking on doors this season. If you stop there, then yes, you’re giving the Democratic party the impression that you support Hilary. Balls to that. Raise hell with your local Dem chapter, let your state Dem candidates this election know that while Hilary has your vote, they do not—not necessarily, that is. Tell them how you feel that they’ve fallen short, what you’d like to see happen, and if possible get feedback from them on what path they think might get us there.

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Absolutely. Moreover, now, while the progressive wing of the party is energized and mobolized, is a great time to take over the party from within, which means getting your friends together, going to party meetings, and getting elected into positions of authority there. If the Sanders supporters can take over the Party in my state, they can do it in yours.

Meanwhile, there are issues where Clinton is strongly on the right side - choice, gun control, equal opportunity, support for poor women and children - where vulnerable people need her to win, and need her to win with a mandate. Any progressive (even in a non-swing state) who decides that they’re going to sit back and do nothing,or maybe vote 3rd party or write in their dog, that’s just their privilege showing.

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A faultless fulcrum for this presidential election’s (essentially) either-or choice. Well said.

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