Idaho moves to make gender-affirming care for teens a felony and restricts people from leaving the state

If that’s what it takes, let’s go.

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I’m calling dibs on the callsign “Dangerzone”.

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My call sign is rocking chair.

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Considering the fact that a huge majority of Idaho political candidates are running on an “election integrity” AKA voter suppression platform, the number of people voting for the “wrong” candidate may not matter.

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I’m really surprised that people don’t seem to get what this tells children about their value, safety and how it effects their family dynamics even if it ends up being overturned.

Having your government say you should be eliminated and that your parents are monsters for loving and supporting you. That you need to fear your relatives, health care providers, friends, neighbors, scout leaders etc. Even more. And that you’re the reason your parents and doctors might go to prison- and you forcibly put in the state care system and denied your very existence.

These kids are already fucked over - right now.

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This was addressed years ago with Brown V. Board, which was built on the inherent dehumanization that Black kids experienced in a segregated system. Treating trans kids as “different” in this manner will lead to actual harm and is causing harm.

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:musical_note: Highway to the danger zone…:musical_note:

So…Interstate 84?

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Some of my most white-knuckled driving. :flushed:

I’m not sure which is worse: driving the east end of the Columbia River gorge and getting tossed around by 50 knot winds or the west end of the gorge hydroplaning in the ruts during heavy rain at night and getting blinded by splashes from semis passing at 80 mph.

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I was thinking of the ripple effects earlier. Not just what you stated so well, but also the kids who are friends with trans kids and see them treated this way.
Clearly the biggest harm is falling on trans kids and their families and caretakers, but I started thinking of being a kid with trans friends and seeing them treated this way. I hope their parents are also speaking out about this, to protect the well-being of their own kids, and that it will amplify.
It reminds me very sadly of the Kent State shootings and how deeply that affected so many in really sad and avoidable ways that last for generations.
Just…fucking assholes. Causing so much harm. Assholes.

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I also think about the ripple effects for the transphobic. Kids who’ve already had it instilled in them that they should hate and fear trans people (because you’ve got to be carefully taught) are going to see this as underscoring those same lessons. And the teachers who all along have been standing idly by while LGBT kids are bullied in their classrooms, or, worse, encourage the bullying–because we know there are plenty of them–are going to see this as an encouragement too.

Meanwhile the teachers who want to speak up are now going to be even more afraid to do so–afraid of losing their jobs, or worse.

And I’m putting this in the present tense because, as many others have said just in this thread, this isn’t an abstract thought experiment. Ultimately it doesn’t even matter if the bill passes. The damage is done, and is being done. The question is how bad it will get.

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But that’s the thing: they do want a small government.

They want it to be just big enough to pass the fascist laws that they send to the massive massive paramilitary police forces to implement, and install the theocratic judges who run the kangaroo courts to disappear any survivors.

If it’s too big, then people who disagree with them might get in, and we can’t be having that, now, could we.

The smallest government, naturally, is one person. Then he wouldn’t need to consult or debate or compromise, he just needs to say things and they will happen. He just needs to dictate, if you will.

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CBC has a “Kids” news article on the recent Texas and Florida things.

It reminds me of the over simplified articles that were in a specific section of the newspaper that were for discussion in elementary school. It also reminds me that elementary school students have more intelligence and compassion than GOP politicians.

Also a question for those around here who know more: one of the individuals commentating on the issues is a “trans masculine boy”, is there any significance to the use of “masculine” beyond being descriptive?

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People often refer to someone as being on the masculine or feminine spectrum as trans people. This is more recent language (for old heads like me) which seeks to honor that not all trans people identify as men or women; but many as more gender variant.

Or - beyond the Loki binary.

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Came home from work in a foul mood because people are crazy, to find youngest freaking out about this proposed law. I told them it would not affect them, and not to worry too much. “I’m not worried about me. They are talking about taking you away!” At once, both heartbreakingband heartwarming. Also led to a discussion of how “they aren’t coming for you” is not very comforting. Sigh.

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I am so sorry for your family. This effects people in all states who are worried for people in these states- and who worry about their own futures.

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…let alone having no grasp on reality.

I swear to all the god/esses, these creatures need to clump themselves all together and move somewhere very remote, live their lives the way they want, and leave the rest of us The Fuck Alone. I want absolutely nothing to do with the so-called god they worship: it’s even worse than the big thug in the biblee.

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Even if not passed by the state senate, the fascist governor will just declare an executive order a la that doofus Abbott in TX. Cuz it’s an “emergency” and gotta “protect our children” :roll_eyes:

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You don’t have long-tailed cats?