In conservative states, people die younger

I would assume they are referring to abortion

Ahoy!!

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But a life in those places feels longer so it’s kind of a wash.

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Do they, though? Because it really seems to be all about owning the libs, fearing socialism, hating anything and everything that the Democrats propose. Literally. Trump health care plan? They’d vote for it. Biden health care plan, if it were the exact same thing as a Trump health care plan? Boo, evil, we hate it!

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To elaborate, liberalizing marijuana laws is the only policy they covered that was associated with a higher death rate.

It is increasingly being adopted by red states.

Dozens of people are raptured each year. It’s just not really widely reported.

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I’d have to see the methodology for that. We know that it lowered opioid deaths. And I have to wonder if they considered things like that and other things - like say prison deaths for those incarcerated on weed charges.

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/ecin.12819

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This is and isn’t true. Actual cities skew distinctly democratic, but urbanized areas don’t necessarily and thinking of states in terms of urbanization for politics is weird and deeply misleading. Sprawling suburbia is both urban in some senses and frequently really politically regressive. To take some obvious examples, Vermont is one of the least urbanized states, but hardly a Republican stronghold. A larger percentage of the populations of Arizona, Florida, and Utah live in urban areas than New York, Connecticut, and Washington.

Cities can have a higher pollution burden, but we don’t talk often enough about how damaging rural pollution is. Most Polluted Places to Live | State of the Air | American Lung Association Sure LA’s air is bad, but the air is also bad in cancer alley and there are no shortage of mining communities with astoundingly high rates of pollution.

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Except we’re not just talking about the MAGA crowd, but about a large part of the US population who, despite mounds of evidence to the contrary, believe that the GOP are better at “the economy” because they cut taxes and deregulate industry in ways that only benefit corporations. That existed well prior to Trump, and is a article of faith well outside the MAGA hard core. This has been part of the GOP’s mindset since Reagan (at least) and is true of many people who claim to be “independents” politically.

Are you paying any attention at all to the polling? Independents are willing to vote for the GOP because of inflation, and they believe the GOP is better with the economy. This factoid is actually not about Trump, but about people’s erroneous beliefs that the best way for the government to shape the economy is via deregulation and tax cuts. These run contrary to facts, but people buy it, including most independents, and even some Democrats. There is definitely a hard core MAGA wing who are ride and die, but I’m talking about the moderate GOP and independents who believe that what matters more is deregulation and tax cuts (a fascist take over be damned).

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You are right to be suspicious of the marijuana results.

And the others.

I can only take sociology papers after suspending disbelief.

Something similar happened to the ACA, there were many republican provisions in there and some of the more liberal provisions were cut. Yet, the republicans continue to vehemently rail against it.

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And they may die younger, but they die FREER!
USA! YOUNG AND FREE!
GIVE ME LIBERTY AND GIVE ME DEATH!

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It calls to mind the Tennyson poem, “Theirs not to reason why / Theirs but to do and die”, that people keep changing to “do or die”, for some reason. (Wishful thinking I suppose.)

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