Selfies with horses, however, are a notoriously difficult genre to master.
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I mean, get the damned vaccine, but:
“Meta-analysis of 15 trials, assessing 2438 participants, found that ivermectin reduced the risk of death by an average of 62% (95% CI 27%–81%) compared with no ivermectin treatment [average RR (aRR) 0.38, 95% CI 0.19 to 0.73; I2 = 49%]”
Is this study wrong? Far be it from me to avoid dunking on idiot talk show hosts who don’t believe in getting a vaxx, but do believe in a weird therapeutic, but a quick skim of this says its not just made up.
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Still seems weird to leave a treatment decision in the hands of a court instead of the doctors. But I’m no expert in healthcare law so who knows.
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Meta-analysis = shoehorning together data from different studies with different criteria. Easy to end up seeing shapes in the clouds if the soure data is meh. If you look at the citing articles, several of them rip the meta-analysis for low-quality data.
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I believe the are actually DuckDuckGoing. Every time I post something on Facebook I’m told to quit using Google and use the trusted DuckDuckGo. So I do and point out you get the same results and DuckDuck is not what they think it is.
Man when they latch on to something no amount of information will get them to let it go.
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I tried searches on private tabs on both. Got much more positive horse pill shit on DDG, including papers that have since been reinterpreted and newspaper articles reporting early research which has become more mature, less promising, and the same newspaper has written about this subsequently.
Frankly you could argue Google has a recency bias and Duck an age bias. In this case, Covid, I’d like to go with newer please
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A similar meta analysis has an expression of concern attached
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If they didn’t have children i’d be okay with it, as they’d be darwining themselves…
But the issue is many have children and that is unacceptable collateral damage to innocents.
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Excellent find! I missed that in my extremely cursory search.
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The drug needs a proper trial and I believe there are trials going on right now but this explains the problem with the report you linked to. The two biggest problems seem to be the people who submitted the report have a clear agenda and they linked together a bunch of small low quality trials and are trying to show that it’s a large high quality trial.
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Ah, thanks.
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Yes, the hooves make it very difficult for them to hold the camera
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DuckDuckGo uses Bing’s search engine, but they don’t keep your search data or pass on identifiable user info to Bing. So it’s crappy-'ol Bing.
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It’s not a study, it’s a meta-analysis, so its value depends on the quality of the studies that generated the data. Since over two-thirds of the data used hasn’t been peer-reviewed yet, that quality is very speculative.
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This article directly addresses that particular review and glosses what such reviews can tell us.
And this one summarizes some stuff about the ivermectin fad then takes the review, and the one other one getting heavily pointed at, in detail.
Long story short they’re poorly conducted themselves. Mostly made up of critically flawed, small and petri dish studies. The journals involved or their publication process are sketchy. And as for this Bryant review, all the listed authors are apparently associated with an ivermectin advocacy group, a pretty weird thing to even exist.
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When I hit the rabbit hole after one of the links there appears to be a large Egyptian study that was probably false or had so many errors and issues that it may have well been. It also had a large sample size and noted a highly positive effect and so unduly influenced all of the meta-analyses that included it.
Rummages around browser history….
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I’m surprised someone at the FDA hasn’t already filed a request for injunction in federal court to block this order. While doctors can prescribe drugs off-label, there is risk in doing so and third parties can get in big trouble for it.
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If taking Ivermectin would cause these dumb-shits to kill themselves off before they have a chance to spread more covid to everyone else, then I for one would be all “Go Ivermectin Go!”. The greater good, and all that, and I applaud their sacrifice.
However, research (googled of course) seems to indicate that what is more likely to happen is that they just get really really sick from taking it, and end up just sucking up even more hospital beds.
Is there a miracle cure conspiracy theory out there that can keep them from just making things even worse for everybody else?
